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If you run a small business, organization, etc, PLEASE get an actual website and not some Facebook page. You are just turning away any potential customers, members, etc by locking your visibility by a Facebook login screen.

All you need is a simple static website that shows where you are located, what you are selling, how to contact you, etc. Simple HTML and CSS is not that hard. If you can't handle that, you can easily whip up something in a Word Processor (which I normally wouldn't condone but is much better than hosting your shit on Facebook). Just don't use shit like Wix or Squarespace which adds unnecessary big tech JS to your site.

@xianc78

This is wisdom. Facebook makes you dependent on it.

@jeffcliff @xianc78

It's silly when you think about it. "Here, let's put our corporate presence in the hands of some company with no obligation to treat us well."

@jeffcliff @amerika Don't forget about hosting your discussions on Reddit or Discord instead of an actual forum or chatroom.

@jeffcliff @xianc78 @amerika
Well at least some (bars e.g.) do update on google, a tiny minority on bing.
What seemingly nobody knows:
1. You can "edit" google
2. Bing is not fringe; many services use bing as the hidden DB
3. OSM is there too. Some services use this also. OSM IS fringe BUT those who use OSM tend to have a LOT of discretionary income (or none lol). Just the correct name and location of your business is enough.

@amerika

The irony is that I noticed the more FB/Insta/Twatter-only they are the more lefty, alternative and obnoxious they tend to be.

@xianc78 I'm using shopify for now. But plan to build something in the future when I have more time to dedicate. I refuse to shell out advertising to big corps. I will admit that my art is spread out on various sites at the moment. The plan is the eventually be my own printing house.

For now, I do what I can to be decentralized and be away from the main systems. It's been 3 years since I've had a W2 job.

Little steps forward.

@xianc78 I've been telling businesses this for years that I won't shop them if they can only support Facebook

@xianc78 I had a WIX site for awhile and it was just shit for SEO. I got more traffic off my Google page. I just created a Hubspot account and I'm not concerned about connecting to Fcukbook at all.
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