@xianc78 @shebang Now only if Kissinger and Rothchild (or Rockefeller, I always confuse the 2) would die, all the root Jesuits would be gone (there were only 5 of them, 3 of which are already dead).
@ryo @xianc78 @shebang
The Rothschilds are Jews, and they have been doing what they do for a very long time ( https://odysee.com/@FTC-NL:0/Rothschilds-and-Bankers-world-Control---FTC-NL:6?r=C7ULE5xB9xgfrqi3FFhVKTufGhNR6Mwi&t=0 ), and already owned a huge chunk of the planet over a century ago.

The Rockefellers supposedly initially made their fortune from their dealings with the Rothschilds in the first place, and are themselves related to the British royals, at least according to this page https://humphrysfamilytree.com/famous.thelist.html , and so is Bill Gates, who is himself basically a Rockefeller. The Rockefellers are involved in funding every evil thing that you can possibly think of, including projects like MKUltra, and organizations like the WEF, the WHO and the UN. All of these families are also behind every single war in the 20th and 21st century.

There are other families like them, and I don't know how far back they go, but there are big banking families today that have been around since at least the Republic of Venice, and may have been behind the fucking crusades, for profit. The British empire possibly became successful in the first place because of the Venetian oligarchs moving their operations to Britain (lots of occultists involved, and they actually wrote a big chunk of the history that is taught today, by selecting some of their people to be the supposed inventors or discoverers of various things, and basically took over the scientific establishment), and then to America after they took it over.

Anyway, capitalism is a total fraud. No one actually becomes successful within it nowadays without being involved in some serious nepotism and deals with the devil, or being related to royalty or other rich psychopaths. They have monopolized the world's wealth a long time ago.

@TerminalAutism @shebang @ryo
>Anyway, capitalism is a total fraud. No one actually becomes successful within it nowadays without being involved in some serious nepotism and deals with the devil

They only do it because they bribe the government. Get rid of the government then capitalism is the most liberating economic system.

@xianc78 @shebang @ryo That couldn't possibly be more wrong. Get rid of the government and then it doesn't even have to be bribed anymore. Corporations take over everything, become the government, except with no restrictions at all, and then goodbye all of your rights. The end result of capitalism and communism is identical.

There is no difference at all. In both, one central authority owns everything and you own nothing and have no rights and no choice. It's no coincidence that communism tends to be pushed by rich capitalists and that Klaus Schwab has a statue of Lenin in his room, and at the same time has the support of all major corporations and world leaders, and has even referred to his group as "OURR GLOBAL CORRPORRATION".

Also no coincidence that China is the most capitalist country on the planet and also one of the least free. It's a fusion of capitalism and communism. Ruthless capitalism endorsed by totalitarian government.

The most liberating system is no system. Or a system that prevents systems, since we all know that some psychopath is going to try to recreate these demonic entities from hell. All ideologies are evil, no exceptions, from communism to socialism to capitalism. They are all everything wrong with this world.

Here is a quote that I like:
"Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men for
the nastiest of motives will somehow work for the benefit of all."
-attributed to John Maynard Keynes

And funnily enough, the exact same quote also works perfectly for communism. Whenever personal gain is mixed with a position of power, you end up with the same result.

Also, I just remembered that @digdeeper wrote some articles about capitalism and about libertarianism that I liked:
https://digdeeper.club/articles/capitalismcancer.xhtml
https://digdeeper.club/articles/libertarianism.xhtml

I should have written something like that, but I only write spontaneously and have no structure and it's pure chaos. He nailed it, though.
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@TerminalAutism @shebang @digdeeper @ryo I've read DigDeeper site. He does make some good points. But in his capitalism article, he doesn't realize that copyright isn't capitalist at all.

digdeeper.club/articles/capita

Also, you are free to use private property and contract law to set up communes of any political or economic system you like under anarcho-capitalism as long as it's voluntary. It's why I prefer the term "Panarchism".

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@xianc78 @TerminalAutism @shebang @ryo

>Also, you are free to use private property and contract law to set up communes of any political or economic system you like under anarcho-capitalism as long as it's voluntary.

How would you do that, though, when all land is already owned, and you yourself have nothing?

I think "voluntary" is kind of an illusion, you were born somewhere, and already affected by a trillion things you had no control of. So the goal should be to make those "things" as good as possible for any newborn person.

@digdeeper @shebang @TerminalAutism @ryo
>How would you do that, though, when all land is already owned, and you yourself have nothing?

How much of that land was acquired illegitimately? And there is plenty of unclaimed land. It's just that it's illegal to claim it and use it without the government's permission.

We also still have the ocean, which is why I hope the seasteading movement will make the ancap dream a reality.

seasteading.org/

@xianc78 @digdeeper @shebang @TerminalAutism
Honestly, I think if the governments can illegally claim land, then so can we.
They have already made themselves illegitimate through the scamdemic (I think they've already been illegitimate since 1913, but now it's as obvious as it can be).

So I'd say, get yourself a 3D printer, print out guns and bullets, and if they dare to come to your property and claim your property is "illegal", you'll have a defense (using something most of them will deem "illegal", but then again, governments aren't legitimate themselves anyway, therefore their artificial "laws" also should have no value).
@xianc78 @digdeeper @shebang @ryo The corporation called "government" has claimed that land. It is claimed. And the same would happen under all of those other ideologies. Someone becomes too powerful and claims everything, and then you vill own nothing.
@digdeeper @xianc78 @ryo @shebang The basic thing that people don't get is that freedom has to be defended. If there are no restrictions that protect individual liberty, someone will do anything to gain more power than anyone should ever have, and then use that power to take away everyone else's freedom.

So anarcho anything doesn't really work, because it gives way too much power to greedy fucks with no scruples (power that good people have zero interest in, because what the hell is the point?), and they exploit the lack of restrictions to put restrictions on what others can do, and then we're right back to no freedom once again. Just like capitalism and socialism and libertarianism and fascism and all the other isms.

A society with no restrictions sounds good on paper, but unless it exists in a vacuum where no external threats exist, and is entirely populated by good people, it would not last. If we could do that, I would be all for it, but we live in a world where most people are apathetic and don't care about freedom, and a big chunk of them are sociopathic shitbags.
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