It's the perfect thing for the mentally ill, power tripping piece of shit who hates you for some reason, won't tell you why, and wants you out right now. When you're kicked from a Discord server it vanishes from the list and so does the message history, so you can't see why either. The entire server is gone, and in the server in some "secret" admin room (which is visible with Ripcord/similar) they're too busy shit talking you.
Discord is
Jewish
Closed Source
Spying
Bloated
Electron
Centralized
Mumble + IRC + XMPP are all better
@charliebrownau @PhenomX6 I agree completely, but personally, I feel completely forced into using Discord, both by IRL friends and online friends. There are a few people with whom I’d lose contact completely if I stopped using Discord. I only have two friends whom I convinced to install Mumble, and even they usually prefer to use Discord for VC (even though Mumble has lower-latency and better sound quality). Not to mention that there’s no way in hell I could get them on IRC/XMPP.
The reality I’ve had to accept over the years is that normies don’t give a fuck about any of the things you mentioned, hell, even people with significant technical knowledge don’t always care. If we want people to use non-spyware open-source solutions, we have to make them just as convenient as Discord.
I think Matrix got pretty close to this goal, while I have my issues with how bloated it is, it’s also a huge improvement from Discord.
((( MATRIX )))) is just as bloated and created by the ((( ENEMY)))
If anything we need a Mumble client that looks like Discord
Just let the normies on all the stuff they already destroyed, us chads will be on XMPP, IRC, Mumble, BBS, Newsgroups, Mailinglists, and all the other actually good stuff.
I always found Mumble is a good shittest to see if your half tech savy to actually work out
Username
Server Name
Port
Password
If they cant work it out
they are a shitcunt
So yea, this barrier of entry, whether real or not, is really the bullet proof way of gatekeeping idiots out.
I sometimes get told "if you want people to use the darknet, XMPP, and all that, you'll need to make a satanphone crapp to make it as easy for them as clicking only 1 button.".
I always reply, "why the fuck should I even make it easy for them to destroy the last good bits of technology!?".
No seriously, it's exactly because the internet has become easier to use (ironically, I actually find modern websoytes harder to use than the old websites) that caused us to have massive amounts of censorship and growing, fucking idiots destroying everything the brightest have created, and everything on one hand, and the tradcucks stopping us from fixing the problem before it's too late by saying "YOU'LL BE JUST AS BAD AS THEM!!" which are part of the problem on the other hand.
So yea, fuck all of them, let's keep the remaining few based technologies to just the nerds, and finally teach fellow nerds how to gatekeep and how to NOT make things easier to use (to automate the gatekeeping).
@charliebrownau @PhenomX6 @ThighHighSock
Yet, making it easier is a good approach. Because not everyone has this understanding of how it works technically, how to set it up, and how lately to maintain it. Look, just a rough example, if I want to listen to music I don't want to set up the proper frequency, calibrate speakers, and write a proper command in several lines. Because in the end, I will forget what I wanted to do.
> Because not everyone has this understanding of how it works technically, how to set it up, and how lately to maintain it.
Which is exactly the point.
Just like there are job interviews to gatekeep parasites out who would otherwise just leech money until the company goes bankrupt, there should be a barrier to entry to gatekeep idiots out who would otherwise demand destructive measures, government involvement, and mass surveillance to make it "easier" and "safer" for them to use.
@PhenomX6 @ThighHighSock @charliebrownau
It was you who said “if you don't know how to set up and maintain it then hire someone who knows”. Now you changed your mind?
I'm not forever stuck in the same mindset, so when I'm proven wrong, I change my mind accordingly.
I was actually getting worried for a while that Fedi will get destroyed by the Twitfugees, and I'm glad to seeing Fedi fight back and actually fix the problem while it's still fixable, which also shows that I'm not the only one capable of doing so.
@PhenomX6 @ThighHighSock @charliebrownau
Then you will not get "quality people" because there are different mindsets. You will get only IT nerds.
@nk @PhenomX6 @charliebrownau @ryo Everything about IT nerds is higher quality than normies.
Normies are destroying our current clearnet by flocking to centralized, spyware services (such as Discord, Facebook, etc.) and thus creating a “network” effect where others are almost forced to use them.
Normies are enabling the corrupt financial system by refusing to use Monero, and insisting on credit cards. Even worse, many see cryptocurrency as “investment opportunities” and cause the prices to be volatile. They keep their coins in central exchanges, or even worse, investment apps such as Robinhood (which does not even allow you to send your bitcoins to an actual address).
Normies are destroying what little freedom the clearnet has left, by demanding that companies such as Cloudflare drop clients because they’re controversial.
Normies treat the Internet like real life, they make things less fun by being offended by people acting like retards for fun.
I’m not saying that any of these things are exclusive to normies, there are nerds cough cough trannies who do the same thing, but it’s a lot more common amongst normies.
A network of exclusively IT nerds would be much more pleasant. The i2p community demonstrates this pretty well!
@ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @charliebrownau @nk @ryo Fucking off to the remote corner doesn't solve the problem with normies using credit cards.
@ThighHighSock @PhenomX6 @charliebrownau @nk @ryo I actually would like normies to be more tech-savvy. Weather you like it or not, the choices they make affect all of us.
