:mgsgb_1::woman: People claim that the GDPR/EU "Right to be forgotten" stuff applies to random fedi instances.
:mgsgb_2::mycomputer: I compile a list of the intersection of these people with people that have blocked FSE.
:mgsgb_3::putingoggles2: I email/message/etc. demanding that they remove FSE from fediblock and their blocklists.
:mgsgb_4::idontknowmuchaboutcomputers: :mgsgb_questionmark::mgsgb_questionmark::mgsgb_questionmark::mgsgb_questionmark:
:mgsgb_5::ancapshades: PROFIT!!!
:mgsgb_2::mycomputer: I compile a list of the intersection of these people with people that have blocked FSE.
:mgsgb_3::putingoggles2: I email/message/etc. demanding that they remove FSE from fediblock and their blocklists.
:mgsgb_4::idontknowmuchaboutcomputers: :mgsgb_questionmark::mgsgb_questionmark::mgsgb_questionmark::mgsgb_questionmark:
:mgsgb_5::ancapshades: PROFIT!!!
@p I don't think "freespeechextremist.com" qualifies as personal data.
@lanodan I could make a case that it does, but it should be trivial in the cases where they have personally insulted me.
@p I think that's more defamation kind of stuff.
@lanodan Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
@p true, but one that knows about GDPR (which doesn't even applies to you) won't honor your request or use the hashsum+wildcard censoring thing if it's a mastodon (nut sure why they have that).
@lanodan
> but one that knows about GDPR (which doesn't even applies to you)
It applies to servers located in the EU; people have attempted to claim that FSE is violating the GDPR.
(...But the point is that these people are mistaken. Anyone knowledgeable about the GDPR is not going to claim that FSE or any other random fedi server has violated it. That is the joke.)
> but one that knows about GDPR (which doesn't even applies to you)
It applies to servers located in the EU; people have attempted to claim that FSE is violating the GDPR.
(...But the point is that these people are mistaken. Anyone knowledgeable about the GDPR is not going to claim that FSE or any other random fedi server has violated it. That is the joke.)
@p >It applies to servers located in the EU; people have attempted to claim that FSE is violating the GDPR.
No no no.
GDPR is protecting EU residents rights, regardless of where the fuck the data, servers, admins, … are present, because those simply do not really matter. Incidentally, anything in USA because of garbage like the patriot act, can't guarantee those rights and so are deemed inappropriate, because you cannot ask someone if it's okay to ignore their rights. (How the hell is it supposed to work with stuff like federation and exclusively USA services? I don't know.)
Appropriate countries being on: https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/international-dimension-data-protection/adequacy-decisions_en/
No no no.
GDPR is protecting EU residents rights, regardless of where the fuck the data, servers, admins, … are present, because those simply do not really matter. Incidentally, anything in USA because of garbage like the patriot act, can't guarantee those rights and so are deemed inappropriate, because you cannot ask someone if it's okay to ignore their rights. (How the hell is it supposed to work with stuff like federation and exclusively USA services? I don't know.)
Appropriate countries being on: https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/international-dimension-data-protection/adequacy-decisions_en/
@lanodan That link appears to be about compatibility with other countries' laws.
"This Regulation shall extend to all natural persons, regardless of their ethnicity or place of residence, concerning the collection of their personal details." The scope extends wherever goods or services are provided to EU citizens or within the EEA.
(The *purported* scope, anyway. Extra territorium jus dicenti impune non paretur.
)
"This Regulation shall extend to all natural persons, regardless of their ethnicity or place of residence, concerning the collection of their personal details." The scope extends wherever goods or services are provided to EU citizens or within the EEA.
(The *purported* scope, anyway. Extra territorium jus dicenti impune non paretur.
)
@p Ah yeah, foreigners would also get GDPR rights within EEA, this way it's also compatible with another country's equivalent of GDPR.
But FSE is in USA.
But FSE is in USA.
@lanodan Right; they are mistaken. (See previous parenthetical remark under several newlines.) But if their server is in the EU/EEA *or* they are providing services to citizens of the EU, it applies. (Otherwise I want those stupid cookie banners to go away.)
@xue @p
What it changed:
- Now we can sue Amazon/Google/… for something other than pocket money when they do not respect data privacy laws. I don't expect Americans to understand regulations though.
- Cookie banners? Those sites were already infested by crap, you don't need them if your shit is done at least a tiny bit correctly. To me this is like being annoyed that the glasses in They Live prevent you from seeing fatty burgers that a normal human cannot eat. The next shit you'll see on the website is crap asking you to click on boats.
What it changed:
- Now we can sue Amazon/Google/… for something other than pocket money when they do not respect data privacy laws. I don't expect Americans to understand regulations though.
- Cookie banners? Those sites were already infested by crap, you don't need them if your shit is done at least a tiny bit correctly. To me this is like being annoyed that the glasses in They Live prevent you from seeing fatty burgers that a normal human cannot eat. The next shit you'll see on the website is crap asking you to click on boats.
@lanodan @p
How it changed for me
Before EU laws:
- clear cookies when closing browser
After EU laws:
- clear cookies when closing browser
- search and block those banners and thats only when site allows you to load it without first accepting cookies
Conclusion:
EU is fake and annoying, just like germans who control it
How it changed for me
Before EU laws:
- clear cookies when closing browser
After EU laws:
- clear cookies when closing browser
- search and block those banners and thats only when site allows you to load it without first accepting cookies
Conclusion:
EU is fake and annoying, just like germans who control it
@xue @p That's because you see the tip of the iceberg.
For example, Google is pretty much illegal but cannot be shut down / blocked out without causing a riot (and probably locking some normies into/out-of their house but that one would be fun).
Turns out a lot of Google's harm comes from integration on other website, stuff like Google Analytics.
What did GDPR do there? Reduce the usage of Google Analytics quite significantly.
There's also other fun things GDPR did, like making it illegal for phone companies to sell your data (incl. phone number) without your consent.
For example, Google is pretty much illegal but cannot be shut down / blocked out without causing a riot (and probably locking some normies into/out-of their house but that one would be fun).
Turns out a lot of Google's harm comes from integration on other website, stuff like Google Analytics.
What did GDPR do there? Reduce the usage of Google Analytics quite significantly.
There's also other fun things GDPR did, like making it illegal for phone companies to sell your data (incl. phone number) without your consent.
@icedquinn @p @xue Which isn't surprising, data privacy offices are massively understaffed.
There's literally more money for online anti-piracy than data privacy…
There's literally more money for online anti-piracy than data privacy…
this thread, Its some gay fucking shit
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