You will not impose freedom on normies. They will put the shackles on you instead to share their misery.
You will not impose freedom on normies. They will put the shackles on you instead to share their misery.
Harsh, but I see what you mean.@GrungeQueef@poa.st
@gabriel @GrungeQueef @RustyCrab Except if you give it a bad enough reputation, you will see people trying their best to kill it (maybe not completely) like what so many people tried to do with imageboards after the 8chan linked mass shootings. Now, imageboards are considered dead or dying at this point because nobody wants to risk hosting them anymore.
Aside from imageboards being extremely vulnerable to a AHS style "posting CP to own the chuds" attack or the even easier "fedposting to own the chuds" attack, imageboard culture has been diluted hardcore thanks to everything from the infamous 4chan jannies to the fact that people don't give a shit that much to sacrifice everything to run a site like that.
But most importantly IMO, I think the #1 thing killing imageboards is simply people online use different communities now in 2023, be it Discord/TG/Matrix groups or social media in some form. When you're trying to find friends and communities online, why post on a dying imageboard when you can go to Discord. Like it or not, you're dragged kicking and screaming because that's where the people are at and you're not. Before the 8chan thing, it was already in terminal decline.
@PurpCat @RustyCrab @gabriel @GrungeQueef
>But most importantly IMO, I think the #1 thing killing imageboards is simply people online use different communities now in 2023, be it Discord/TG/Matrix groups or social media in some form. When you're trying to find friends and communities online, why post on a dying imageboard when you can go to Discord. Like it or not, you're dragged kicking and screaming because that's where the people are at and you're not.
I really hate this as a gamedev. I really don't want to use shit like Twitter or Discord, but I'm afraid I have to if I want a decently sized audience, especially given that the hobbyist gamedev community is now full of zoomers who have probably never heard of an Internet forum. Even the anons at /agdg/ realize that using sites like Twitter and Discord are necessary if you want a player-base.
Literally, my only other option is to pay someone to do my social media for me.
@PurpCat @RustyCrab @gabriel @GrungeQueef Just seeing what they tried to do to the Ion Fury devs a few years back makes me feel uneasy. But I'm afraid that the alphabet people is an Internet wide phenomenon at this point. Even if you decide to cater to the freetards and host your community on IRC, you still have to deal with the "programming sock" types who are sometimes even worse.
This two way interaction between viewers and "content-creators" (I hate this term but I can't think of a better one) and the toxicity that it brings really makes me wish that RSS took of instead of social media, where these cancel-culture types are instead on some remote blogs on obscure corners of the Internet. Seriously, interacting with fans outside of fan-letters and fan-emails has brought only the worst in people.
There's no reason to have a discord, you're just babysitting the most mentally ill retards on the planet. Even big "content creators" like Sseth have realized it's 100% not worth the effort. Just have a public forum or instance or whatever for troubleshooting, you want that to be public and not behind the great retard app.
Discords are good for appealing to your active participants. If your business depends on active participation (i.e. you're a streamer, content creator, multiplayer game developer), Discord is one of the best way to indirectly keep that activity high.
It does have the side effect of being more hostile to more passive consumers of your content because unlike a proper forum or such, it locks content behind active participation in a community that is not searchable by common web search engines.
I've seen valuable information lost and have no way to retrieve it because it was posted on Discord some time ago.
Unfortunately some things take a massive priority over me writing up or scanning in documents for old computers (webm related).
Of course now Reddit and it banning anything that offends corporations is no better than forums run by boomers who say "DON'T POST THIS SOFTWARE FOR PROGRAMMING A 25 YEAR OLD RADIO" at this point.
If some of it was more accessible, then you wouldn't need people to hop onto a Discord guild to ask the same question over and over again, and be at the mercy of how bad the search on Discord is.
Meanwhile for continuity: I've kept an older forum alive for over 18 years now that has some archival merit, despite some admins going rogue or trying to kill it by pulling the plug on the hosting/domain, yet I've 'kept the lights on'. Meanwhile you're not going to see such continuity with a Discord guild, since you can't just export/import, or deploy your own installation on commodity software elsewhere. If it's posted on Discord, it's most likely going to die with Discord too.
And you deserve it for being a furry shithead collaborator
