@ArdainianRight Nations only exist in your head and nationalism vs globalism is a false dichotomy.
@xianc78 @ArdainianRight >genetics are a spook bro, but what's real is my purely ideological drivel about The Market™ that keeps getting proven wrong as time goes on
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@gucciloafers @ArdainianRight I never said that genetics aren't real. I'm saying that what defines a race is completely arbitrary. Some people say that there are only 4 races, some say that their 8. We don't have an exact threshold of genetic differences to determine if someone is considered to be a different race.
@xianc78 @gucciloafers @ArdainianRight Seasons are not real, because you cant clearly define them, and some places dont even have them. Night and day are not real, because you cant define them, and they always appear at different time, and some places have 6m long days.
@xianc78 @ArdainianRight It's not arbitrary, especially not in the age of genetic testing. Classical anthropology says about 12, although some of those are pretty related. Sub-Saharan Africans cannot be said to belong to my nation as someone who's ancestry is all from Europe. They are so genetically distant that were this topic not hyper-politicized, you may even consider them a different species, while some other races not as distant could be considered different subspecies.
Maybe if you want to argue just within Europe between say, Germanic people, Celtic people, Slavic people, etc. they're all highly to very highly genetically related and you can try to squirt your gay squid ink here a little. It's still not really arbitrary though. This "problem" you describe of thresholds between subspecies of animals doesn't seem to exist even given similar measured genetic distances. It's because of politics.
By the way, it's rational to not want to be invaded, overrun and forced to mix yourself into oblivion by people who are nothing like you. No one wants to grind away working paying it forward in their blood, sweat and tears for their descendants to be dispossessed and destroyed. Maybe you're some nihilist who thinks this isn't important because you're smoking weed and have no genetic legacy, no real investment in the future?
Maybe if you want to argue just within Europe between say, Germanic people, Celtic people, Slavic people, etc. they're all highly to very highly genetically related and you can try to squirt your gay squid ink here a little. It's still not really arbitrary though. This "problem" you describe of thresholds between subspecies of animals doesn't seem to exist even given similar measured genetic distances. It's because of politics.
By the way, it's rational to not want to be invaded, overrun and forced to mix yourself into oblivion by people who are nothing like you. No one wants to grind away working paying it forward in their blood, sweat and tears for their descendants to be dispossessed and destroyed. Maybe you're some nihilist who thinks this isn't important because you're smoking weed and have no genetic legacy, no real investment in the future?
