@PurpCat Dwarf Fortress still holds their discussions on their own forums to this very day.

bay12forums.com/smf/

In the pentax link someone mentioned the searchable archive. With discord for example, you never know when eveything will just go poof. Call me old fashioned but forums are the way to go. I mean, if you go social media and allow comments, you still need someone to moderate anyway.
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@Corfiot @PurpCat People don't realize that part of the reason why forums declined was that a lot of forums had the worse moderation while sites like Reddit, Digg, or the comment section of YouTube were much more lax at the time. Seriously, forums would immediately ban you just for using words that you can't say on American Daytime TV while sites like YouTube at the time could have you get away with words like "faggot". It was especially pointless as most forums required users to be at least 13 years old anyway.

There were also other bullshit policies like policies against necrobumping, which were pointless as topics do eventually become relevant again with new information. Or admins banning discussions that they *think* are illegal but are not. I remember a lot of gaming forums banning people for merely mentioning the existence of emulators (which aren't even illegal in of itself), not even asking or distributing ROMs. They didn't even mentioned downloading ROMs. They could've even dumped the ROMs themselves for all we know, but they still got banned.

Forums were able to get away with their abusive moderation because they are much smaller with the largest forums having around 10,000 or maybe even 100,000 active users at best. It's basically the same reason why Mastodon instances are able to enforce rules that are more strict than Jack Dorsey's Twitter.

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Oh I know, those mods then ran places like Reddit and Discord "servers".
@xianc78 @corfiot @PurpCat The kinds of sus ideologues that managed to take over the moderation of community sites and the kinds of sus ideologues that zerg-rushed the imageboards had completely opposing ideologies but managed to achieve the same goal: driving people into the arms of social media.
@WALFTEAM @xianc78 @corfiot many didn't even take over
They were just so bad people wanted to bolt
@PurpCat @xianc78 @corfiot That is absoloutely true. It still represents a shortsightedness on the part of the people who bolted; the burden of this mistake is evenly distributed.

In many cases the takeover was mental; as we well know there were only a very few cases of people being injected into communities or being flipped by police contact. Most people who went through these major ideological shifts freely chose to become that way, and the higher-up they were when they changed, the more effective they were in effecting change.
@WALFTEAM @xianc78 @corfiot something awful with low-t appointing the catladies, moots final days, and reddits "we can replace mods" policies are the few exceptions to that rule and I wasn't around sa so the first could have been the pillhead thinking that a catlady was a good idea to be a mod.

Many of them are like Tyler Malka with NeoGAF where he's been called a snake due to his 180 on rules and even registrations when the woke audience dumped his site.
I should add too, what xianc is talking about has absolutely 100% nothing to do with culture war bullshit and everything to do with powertripping moderators who in classic "janny" fashion would use the forum to power trip all to have a false meaning in life while also having a very unsatisfying real life to say the least.

For example so many old school forums with shit admins would janny you for bumping an old thread or "necroposting" or discussing stuff they merely thought was illegal.

It's why say PokeCommunity has a thriving community compared to BMGf or SPPf, because they would talk about something banned on both (romhacks/fangames). Ditto with sites like Project Pokemon that focused on reverse engineering.
@PurpCat @xianc78 @corfiot Noted. Perhaps the real problem is that it's getting harder to just make a better site when shit does go bad.

@WALFTEAM @PurpCat @Corfiot Yes and no. Forums are simple enough to be hosted on a shared hosting service, unlike Fediverse instances which are better off (or out right required) being hosted on a VPS. Even the most popular modern forum software, XenoForo is still written in PHP. And many hosts these days have autoinstallers for packages like phpBB and WordPress, so you don't need to learn things like SSH or FTP.

Granted, I have never actually hosted a forum (outside of testing forum software that I wrote myself almost a decade ago and have lost the source code to since), but I think the biggest problem that forum admins had to deal with is spam. I remember phpBB having the most basic captchas (if you can even call them that). It could be simple as clicking on a checkbox. And I remember back when Reddit was becoming more popular, the common argument of hosting their discussions on there over a forum was the spam issue.

Though, even with basic captchas, you can still handle the spam problem with an active moderation team, filtering out certain email domains (.biz domains are known for spam and abuse), among other things.

Other than that, you have to deal with eventually having to change servers or upgrade your hosting plan if your forum is popular for a long time. It's probably why most forums required you to upload images to a separate server like Photobucket instead of uploading images directly.

The only fedi software stacks written in PHP are GS V2 (old lol) and Friendica.
Friendica is the only one still being maintained. It's kind of jank but Peter Wayland uses it.
https://libranet.de/profile/peter_weyand/

@PurpCat @Corfiot @Kirino I would totally write my own implementation in PHP if I was bothered to look through ActivityPub. But I personally would rather stick to something simple like twtxt.

No joke at least one GS tut said "yeah this is good for shared hosting". Of course nowadays shared hosting is less trendy but some providers are like that.

and maybe something else fairly soon, of what GNU social v3 should have been.

For the newcomer it must have simply seemed a simpler experience. Not much discovery to worry about, multiple "forums" on one site and so on. I think people never think about moderation. Well. Not until they need it. To most, moderation is something that just magically happens. This is still the case but some parts, especially the younger people, are beginning to realize this via the censorship mainstream social media do.
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