>start XMPP chat for nerds
>post link here
>quickly devolves into arguing over GPL licensing vs BSD, if something is actually FOSS, "is xmpp even good"
>people leave

I propose a new name and splash screen for XMPP: Jerry Springer IM. The fastest and most efficient way to argue on the internet. The last man who talks shit but ragequits fast wins a ThinkPad X60 with a free Marlboro odor and dodgy eBay battery.
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@Pawlicker I remember back on 8chan/tech/, they took the whole "cuck license" meme to the absolute extreme that they wouldn't even USE software licensed under a permissive license. Like nobody realized that you can still use the original version even if there are proprietary forks.

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@xianc78 this is why the corporations will keep using shitware like teams

@Pawlicker That or you have negative connotations associated with FOSS/decentralized alternatives. Just bring up anything like XMPP, Tor, crypto, etc and you will often get "Isn't that what terrorists/drug-dealers/pedophiles use?"

@Pawlicker Tor is a really great example of this, despite not really being an alternative to any proprietary software. Normies who hear about people using Tor automatically assume that those people are using it for black marketing, doxing, or viewing cheese pizza. Never mind the fact that even Facebook and Twitter have onion domains.

@Pawlicker I had classmates back in high school who did that and they all got caught because the usernames they used were the same as their XBL gamertags.

@xianc78@gameliberty.club @Pawlicker@bae.st the problem is that tor is used for that and you can't ban them like you can on clearnet because it's tor

retards.
why would you even care about propietary forks? just use what you like and think is cool
@mischievoustomato @xianc78 maybe it's a good thing the people who were chat shitters filtered themselves out now (people leave chats for the dumbest reasons)

@mischievoustomato @Pawlicker I can only guess that they assume that using a BSD/MIT/ISC/zlib/PD licensed program implies that you support the practice of using said licenses. But if that's the case, then you can simply just not contribute any code and not donate any more to the project. You could also just fork the software and release it under the GPL or any other copyleft license.

@xianc78 >they wouldn't even USE software licensed under a permissive license. Like nobody realized that you can still use the original version even if there are proprietary forks.
To be honest, a fair amount of pushover licensed software has proprietary components as nothing in the license that stops that, so you pretty much have to check the software itself, check the free software directory (and hope that the submitter got it right), or use software with a license that ensures proprietary components aren't allowed.
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