That the World’s Richest Man –a South African ineligible to run for office himself– is trying to buy the US election, promised his own federal department to guarantee contracts, should be enough to make people do the exact opposite of what he’s asking them to do.
‘Show Elon that American Democracy isn’t for sale: vote Kamala, whichever party you back’.
Will that campaign emerge in these last few weeks? Or does he somehow win this using the dirtiest disinfo and propaganda tricks we know of?
> We caught 'em red handed!
And what, their guy won, what you going to do?
The problem with election shenanigans is it's pandora's box. Once you open it, there's no going back.
Remember, this is Thiel/Musk/etc they're not amateurs at The Game.
I don't think that's very likely, but it's realistic enough to go on the threat board.
It's like the war between Israel and Hamas. It starts small, they go back and forth, and people lose sight of the fact that Israel can 100% wipe Hamas off the earth.
For Elon and company, the "nuclear option" is kidnap the families of the secretary of state and voting machine company and just tell them whose gonna win. Then Trump wins, fires the DOJ, and everything is forgotten.
They won't do this, just like Israel won't nuke Gaza. But the fact that with their money/connections/power, they COULD, basically means the election is decided.
There was a time when people who could do that wouldn't - but that was before 2020 and 2000 Mules. Whether YOU believe the 2020 election was stolen doesn't make one iota of difference, what matters is that Big People, with money and power and assassins believe it was stolen, that's the ONLY thing that matters.
The 2024 election is basically a quiet civil war, so you can just look at the physical muscle of the participants and know in advance who is going to win.
But what happened between 2020 and now was not like a dispute over energy policy. You have one team rigging the election and then using the state apparatus to incessantly prosecute the other team in order to destroy them.
And may I reiterate, whether YOU think 2020 was rigged, or whether YOU think they used the DOJ to destroy their enemies doesn't matter worth a damn. All that matters is what Musk/Thiel/etc think, and I guarantee you every one of those guys sat down and watched 2000 Mules, and then sent their assistants to double-check some of the claims.
In politics as in poker. You play competitively following certain agreed-upon rules. Anyone can break those rules at any time, but if you get caught, well, you meet Mr. Saturday Night Special.
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Did WEF not promote Great Reset?
Suddenly something comes which has a realistic chance of actually resetting the system and you think Great Reset is somehow off the menu?
Just because Klaus Schwab doesn't personally stand up there and shout in your ear "Yes, this is the guy, he's the one that's going to do it."
@cjd Caleb, help me out. You’re not daft, you made CJDNS. But there’s dozens of sworn witnesses who’ve taken death threats & online attacks to state Trump tried to steal 2016. De Souza’s film has how many named and sworn witnesses to back up its claims? If it was true where are the court cases? It’s whataboutery propaganda - like this Musk-funded ‘Progress 2028’ set up to deflect from Project 2025. Do you really believe what you’re saying, or is this about your crypto investments?
Everything is an uphill battle in this economy, government prints money and uses it to hire political loyalists, then this causes more inflation making everyone else poorer.
Now about 2000 Mules, you have your opinion and I have mine - neither of us can say we really know any of this for a FACT, it could all be Plato's Cave. But between the more-or-less incontrovertible surveillance videos, and the numeric irregularities, I think it's more likely than not that 2020 was stolen.
If you want to know my politics, well, the only presidential candidate I've ever really been excited about was Ron Paul. But alas, they ran 12 people against him to split the vote and make sure he couldn't win. I'm still not over Bush's opiate epidemic, normalization of torture, and general destruction of the American lifestyle. And I'm also not over Clinton's WTO and NAFTA gutting the American economy.
I have vague childhood memories of the 90s, and to imagine a person living in that era and saying "yeah, lets send all the factories to China, lets create the Patriot Act and normalize torture, then we'll start endless wars, print 30Tn$ and create an opioid epidemic".
Mere public execution is far too kind for these people.
So what do I think of Trump? Well, the people who destroyed the country I grew up in all seem terrified of him, so that's about the best endorsement anyone can give.
If he stands a chance of shutting down the federal government, that's even better.
But who knows how things will really end up, a person like you or I have very little chance of influencing anything, the best we can hope for is to try to predict where things are heading and get out in front of them.
I'd rather be trying to build something in a We're Going To Mars world than try to carve out some niche for myself in a multi-century long Fall of Rome timeline where everything keeps getting just a tiny bit worse every year.
@cjd we're not settling Mars. I loved the Mars Trilogy, but this article pours the cold water on it it needs: https://defector.com/neither-elon-musk-nor-anybody-else-will-ever-colonize-mars. Anyone believing Musk's career mission statement, should read that.
> government prints money and uses it to hire political loyalists
Musk has $bns in govt contracts, is spending less than that to get Trump elected, & is promised his own dept to funnel more contracts to his empire. If this was a 3rd world country people wd be wowed; instead it's just 'content'.
I remember when electric cars were universally considered to be unrealistic.
I remember when full-flow staged combustion was a dream that the soviets tried to achieve but couldn't figure out, and it was thought to be impossible.
It was just a couple years ago that nobody gave satellite internet a second thought, it was just assumed that it would always be "slow expensive backup". Now it turns out that low orbit and beamforming technology can do more than anyone thought, and with the potential for inter-satellite laser connections, the future economics ANY fiber infrastructure is called into question.
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"we're not settling Mars" is a totally legitimate statement, when the "we" is a civilization that abandoned the Saturn V to build the "Space Shuttle" (which wasn't a shuttle in any meaningful sense of the word), and then realized it was too expensive, but only after they'd lost the competency to build the Saturn V, so they just gave up.
And it's not like society just gave up on space, they gave up on everything. Cheap nuclear energy, flying cars, robot maids, cancer cures. All of these things were "within reach" in the 1960s, but around 1971 humanity just stopped trying.
Now you can call me an Elon fanboy, but this is a guy who managed to pull off engineering feats that I did not think were possible, multiple times now. And these were real tangible things which changed the course of human history. So if I have to pick his civilization or yours, no offense but I'm going with him.
@cjd @nicol
>I remember when electric cars were universally considered to be unrealistic.
They still are. They only exist to solve some non-problem (man-made climate change) by creating something more environmentally destructive (mining lithium). Even if man-made climate change and peak oil are real there are better ways to approach the problem. Stanley Meyer (the real entrepreneur that we needed) tried to solve that problem himself, but he was murdered by the government.
>Cheap nuclear energy
Everyone who has claimed to have discovered it, died mysteriously. It's clear that the government is trying to suppress that technology. It won't happen unless this current system is either overthrown or reformed. Same with any other technology that will actually benefit us rather than suppress us.
>cancer cures
Recently, people have claimed that ivermectin and fenbendazole can cure cancer or are at least much more effective at treating it.
https://www.tesla.com/support/3g-cellular-network-retirement
I mean entirely from a performance standpoint. I don't care about that hippy bullshit.