Yea, but are managers and directors going to get a pay cut? of course not. They might lay some of them off, but more likely, they'll just raise all the costs and drop the co-pay.

Violence works immediately sometimes. Earth Liberation Front did shut down some operations. But they started back up again a few months or a year later. Meanwhile, America got sick of their violence and destruction. Their message was lost.

I worked in health insurance. It is 100% scum. On the other side is Canada, where government death panels push doctors to push MAID/suicide. Also 100% scum.

I don't know who this CEO was. Maybe he was a bastard shithead who beat his kids. Maybe he was a nice person who donated to every charity he could and tried to teach his kids right. But he had kids and now they don't have a father.

I don't like living in a world where people think that's okay.
@djsumdog @cjd >I don't know who this CEO was. Maybe he was a bastard shithead who beat his kids. Maybe he was a nice person who donated to every charity he could and tried to teach his kids right. But he had kids and now they don't have a father.
Now do the kids whose father comes down with a tragic illness and insurance drops their coverage
Yea see ... I don't know what that has to do with fucking anything. Why should that relate to the murder at all?

I worked at a BlueCross BlueShield for 2+ years. We had two bomb threats when I was there. Now if one of those bombs was real; say it took out eBusiness and me and all my co-workers were dead. Did we deserve it? Because we supported an evil company?

Oh but this guy was a big director level position and raked in millions in personal income. Okay, what if it was a manager who made $250k? Yep he should die, totally guilty, But what if it was a lowly software dev that made $65k? oh that's tragic. He's just a grunt in the machine. But what if it was a high end senior dev that made $165k. Well he should have known better and used his skills to get a better job. Okay, what if it was $165k .. in New York City. That's like $100k anywhere outside the cities adjusted for cost of living..

Where is the line? How much do you have to make or what level do you have to be at where vigilante justice and murder is justified.

You know who celebrates the death of made up enemies they don't even fucking know? Deranged Lefties:

https://battlepenguin.com/politics/how-the-left-celebrate-death/

Don't. Be. Like. Them.

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I worked at a BlueCross BlueShield for 2+ years. We had two bomb threats when I was there. Now if one of those bombs was real; say it took out eBusiness and me and all my co-workers were dead. Did we deserve it? Because we supported an evil company?

Yes

How many evil companies do you support every fucking day. The t-shit you own is made in Mexico by someone who gets paid $5 a day. The CPU in your laptop is put together by someone in Indonesia that makes $20 a week. The food you eat is produced by farmers and ranchers who see their margins cut ever fucking season, whose neighbors are selling out to factory farm companies and Bill Gates back firmed because it's not worth it.

> Yes

FUCK YOU! You want me to die? For working a fucking job you stupid fucking ideological cunt?! I try to be nice to you with your horrific bad takes, but Jesus Fucking Christ. You don't fucking know me. You don't know all the things I've done and see and all the ways I try to just be a decent human being.

You want me to die? What the actual fuck is wrong with you? How are you such a god damn shitty person you want some random person on the Internet who worked two years as a fucking software grunt at an insurance company to fucking die?

Do you want all McDonalds employees to die? They work for a horrible company. Do you want all Samsung employees to die? Their company controls a fucking nation.

Just fuck you brain dead piece of vile garbage.
@djsumdog @anemone okay obviously there are people who work for corpos and extensions of those companies + poor people working under them and suffer the most. Mc Dees and other fast food companies profit from child migrant labor in the worst conditions, etc. You get it, esp with tech. But the people responsible are higher up. I hate Musk Husk and everything he stands for but I am friends with people who work at spaceX and work under awful conditions.

I do think that STEMlords and tech workers need to seriously grapple with the ethics of their personal choices. I'm moreso talking about defense contracting but you get the idea.
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>I do think that STEMlords and tech workers need to seriously grapple with the ethics of their personal choices.

It's tough to do so (especially with the current CS job market), but I generally agree. I like to think John Carmack left Oculus because he was disillusioned with the direction Meta was going with VR with the whole Metaverse thing. Though, I don't know if his current AI startup will be any better.

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@xianc78@gameliberty.club @teratology@the.asbestos.cafe @djsumdog@djsumdog.com I also think there is a difference between working in an industry that has problems due to the society we live in, such as food service, and an industry that is inherently evil like for-profit health insurance.

@anemone @djsumdog @teratology For-profit health insurance is a symptom, not a problem. You used to be able to voluntarily form clubs and groups in which everyone pitched in and the money would be used to cover the cost if a member was hospitalized. This is no longer legal outside of religious groups.

So health insurance companies will continue to exist for as long as the clubs that I've mentioned are outlawed.

@xianc78 @anemone @djsumdog @teratology A few months back I visited a local museum. They had artifacts from some of these clubs that were local to my area. They not only covered medical expenses, but they would take care of widows and orphans when a member died.
Though thst covers some aspects of /demand/, not the /supply/ side which is pretty heavily controlled by the APA and other SIGs, which also drives up prices.
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