@yassie_j the mastercard/visa duopoly controls like 80% of all credit card traffic in the USA (i don't know about other countries.) considering fintech and bankers are an extremely deep rooted cancer going back hundreds of years in this country, gabe would not win that fight.

hell entire populist revolts have been fought to shove out creditors. they failed.

to say mastercard is a hard target is putting it lightly.
@nicholas @icedquinn @yassie_j Supposedly they went about it in one or the most clumsy ways possible
@mrsaturday @nicholas @yassie_j i don't know if transacting btc/xmr has gotten any better. there is like -one- cart software that does it and @sun said its shit.

i think porkbun and some accept it, but they do it through crap like coinbase that auto-converts it to USD for them and thus defeats the whole point.
@icedquinn @nicholas @yassie_j @sun The US makes it deliberately difficult to conduct business with crypto. Any use cases beyond pump and dump casino trash get made illegal very quickly.

I agree with @sun that USDT/USDC would be just fine for this, at least until Congress gets off its ass and starts mandating credit card companies stop. Supposedly there's a bill, but it's stalled in committee.
@mrsaturday @icedquinn @nicholas @sun @yassie_j I like the idea of xmr but because the government couldn't control it but I heard 3 letter agencies are finding ways to hack it
@Ree @icedquinn @nicholas @sun @yassie_j It's been around a little too long, I'd only trust it due to a lack of better options. I do worry that someone's found a way to crack it.

Still, it's difficult to get in the US and unfortunately people aren't going to want to jump through a bunch of crypto hoops when their bank card is 19 numbers away. I think they should learn, but you know how it is.

@mrsaturday @nicholas @icedquinn @Ree @sun Supposedly, Zano is even more private that Monero (not even the amount of money sent is publically viewable), but I haven't tried it.

@xianc78 @nicholas @icedquinn @Ree @sun I'll have to look into it. I doubt it's purchasable in the US, though.
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@mrsaturday @nicholas @icedquinn @Ree @sun It's new so there probably aren't that many vendors selling it right now, legal or not.

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