informed consent is unnecessary for most sexual interaction.
if it can in some way, shape or form indicate dislike it can consent.
statutory rape doesn't exist.
most child trauma resulting from non violent sexual interaction is caused by sociopsychological external influences and not the sexual interaction itself.
"violence can never be the answer" is a sign of privilege, ignorance or stockholm syndrome.
rape can and has had positive outcomes for people and silencing those who talk about it because it doesn't fit your victim narrative makes you an exclusionary asshole.
>rape can and has had positive outcomes for people and silencing those who talk about it because it doesn't fit your victim narrative makes you an exclusionary asshole.
what?
@Lucyfr @grumpy Definitionally, if someone enjoys an experience, whether or not consent was granted, it's not rape. That's why Statutory Rape is not a thing, essentially the "victims" "owners" did not consent to having their "property" fucked, so it's "rape". Statutory Rape devalues and dehumanizes the very human beings it is intended to protect. To call these experiences "positive rapes" is improper, because they are not definitionally rape. The language around rape has become so muddied that it's very difficult to pick apart what people actually mean when they're talking about it.
@Lucyfr @grumpy Like my cupcake analogy, if the cupcake is forced upon me and I enjoyed it, I was not violated. Thus if someone was forced to have sex and they enjoyed it, it was not rape.
If some magical space entity forced its way into my body, against my will, and it ended up making me really happy and strong, it was not a bad experience, I was not raped, it was just a little rough is all.
> Definitionally, if someone enjoys an experience, whether or not consent was granted, it's not rape.
no. by definition only consent matters regardless of if you've enjoyed the experience or not. I have actually no clue where you got that from.
the rest of that is based on that false premise so I'm cba adressing every point individually and will instead say this: rape is sex that you were coerced to have. you could argue that if you enjoy something you're automatically consenting to it but since we are animals that get addicted to shit pretty quickly it would, by your definition, open the conversation to forced morphine injections since the high is most definitely enjoyable. just because we may or may not enjoy something doesn't make it consensual/non consensual. you are btw indirectly confirming the aforementioned sociological connotation by assuming that rape is this super horrible thing nobody could ever enjoy. think about antis talking about how kids can't consent and that having sex with them can only ever be harmful, you're doing the exact same thing although in a different context which needs a lot more nuance.