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Check the names you've heard of, let's talk about their ideas

The one person no one knew, Sasha Shulgan, was a biochemist and researcher, and is who introduced MDMA to psychiatrists in the 70s.

@Jazzy_Butts
>GRIFTER
>GRIFTER
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>never heard of him
>GRIFTER
>never heard of him
>never heard of him

@nukie I think I've been idealizing grifters, I don't want to turn into Grunkle Stan or Mr Krabs...

@Jazzy_Butts after two months I can confidently say that my position on all of these men hasn't changed
@Jazzy_Butts just because a name is vaguely familiar doesnt mean i have any fucking idea who they are or what they said or whether they were some actor or politician or some rando who said something that trended on twitter or a historical figure who helped develop an important spectrum of politics or psychology or whatever.
@prouddegenerate @Jazzy_Butts i remember him being on the sort of michelle malkin weird neocon token minority axis if im remembering the right guy
@rats @Jazzy_Butts he's the walking definition of "one of the good ones"
the "look at this one dumbass black guy see we're not racist guys" conservatives point too
the master of saying a bunch of big words that mean nothing

@prouddegenerate @rats Yea I found him adjacent to PragerU I think that's what lead me to him

@prouddegenerate I have always had an affinity for grift, when I was a kid I would look at grifters and my eyes would sparkle, and I would be taken in by the showmanship, and I would whisper to myself "dats what i wanna bee..."

@Jazzy_Butts

MASSIVE roundtable debate between:
- francois laruelle
- george fitzhugh
- kantbot3000
- laura riding
- tony duvert
- allen dulles
- shadman
- isidore isou

@kallisti Me too, he shaped much of my worldview since I watched a lot of his stuff when I was in my mid teens

@kallisti Haven't read it yet, but I've listened to dozens of hours of him talking, all added up over the years

@Jazzy_Butts fair :) im pretty big into daoism so i really enjoyed the watercourse way, need to reread it

@Jazzy_Butts

You could've used any female scientist and it's likely the outcome would been the same. Achievements of women are rarely celebrated.

I don't think it's due to some sort of nefarious institutionalized system. I think it's due to the fragile egos of those around them, who just happened to be mostly men at the time.

Everyone wants to fly into space, but nobody is celebrating Margaret Hamilton. 🤷‍♂️

@caustic_gnostic You didn't even look the motherfucker up HE is a MAN and HE is NOT trans. People can have odd names.

@Jazzy_Butts

My mistake, I misread what you typed. My brain decided to insert a 'she' in there for no apparent reason. I didn't consciously go out of my way to misgender them.

Instead of making it a respectful teaching moment, just light into them.

Great approach.

@caustic_gnostic Your point was fair, but it had nothing to do with Shulgan tbh

@Jazzy_Butts

To your point, I knew about the others simply because of how YouTube works.

You are correct, I didn't go digging about Sasha. You made it clear what they were most known for. Should I have looked anyway and questioned your claim, yes. Did I, no. I wasn't challenging your claim. I was just agreeing in my own, apparently misguided way.

My brain being half mush to begin with, forgets Sasha is a man's name in many places. Stacy is more common here for men than Sasha. 🤷‍♂️

@Jazzy_Butts

I'm not thin skinned and I admit when I screw up.

It got you to interact though. 🤷‍♂️

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