to that person who told be to back off talking about graf so you don't get defedi'ed . your a two face peace of shit. you helped cover up nasty shit and now it bit you in the ass. get out of here i know who you are Loyal too now so go back to your home Poa.st and stop acting like you care about ppl here .
Who? What
Oh no is the civil war arc starting?
Poast declared war on the Fediverse a long time ago and anyone who leaves the Poast bubble will figure that out pretty damn quick lol. He has half of us banned for literally no reason.
@GoodPerson @Frankurino @MrbrokeDome @teaclips refresh my memory which one that was. Because I'm pretty sure I didn't put any of that sort in there
You know exactly which one it was. Everyone complained about it for almost a year and he had to change it presumably because a lawyer told him it was ridiculous to tell people to anonymize the names and age of any suspicious coomer material they posted.
Everyone knows you love the pedophile porn btw, you’re worse than Daniel Stevens, at least all he does is promote and defend pedos.
Everyone knows you love the pedophile porn btw, you’re worse than Daniel Stevens, at least all he does is promote and defend pedos.
@GoodPerson @Frankurino @MrbrokeDome @teaclips No, I don't exactly know which one it was. Surely your hateboner saved a copy of that rules page at some point
What I do remember is the rule saying that you shouldn't reference canonical ages of fictional characters if they are underage, or mention that a drawing depicts someone underage. It was a weird rule, I will admit, but it was the best I could come up with at the time that would stop meme posts like "UUUOOOHHH CHILD EROTIC". Because that was the tipping point for most in tolerating lolicon at all
What I do remember is the rule saying that you shouldn't reference canonical ages of fictional characters if they are underage, or mention that a drawing depicts someone underage. It was a weird rule, I will admit, but it was the best I could come up with at the time that would stop meme posts like "UUUOOOHHH CHILD EROTIC". Because that was the tipping point for most in tolerating lolicon at all
@lewdthewides @Frankurino @MrbrokeDome @teaclips @GoodPerson
>but it was the best I could come up with at the time that would stop meme posts like "UUUOOOHHH CHILD EROTIC". Because that was the tipping point for most in tolerating lolicon at all
Most tone deaf thing I have ever read. This is like when Jeffrey Dahmer couldn't comprehend that picking a 14 year old boy to cook and eat wasn't really the worst part. Only a pedophile could write the post you just wrote: You don't understand what even upsets people.
>but it was the best I could come up with at the time that would stop meme posts like "UUUOOOHHH CHILD EROTIC". Because that was the tipping point for most in tolerating lolicon at all
Most tone deaf thing I have ever read. This is like when Jeffrey Dahmer couldn't comprehend that picking a 14 year old boy to cook and eat wasn't really the worst part. Only a pedophile could write the post you just wrote: You don't understand what even upsets people.
@book @Frankurino @MrbrokeDome @teaclips @GoodPerson I could never understand what makes you upset. Nor do I think anyone would make an attempt at trying
Wait, is this a rare one? I got a rare card this early game?!
Awesome, anyone wanna trade?
Awesome, anyone wanna trade?
@PonyPanda @Frankurino @MrbrokeDome @Sui @teaclips @GoodPerson @book I don't have a blockbot to tell me, but I know he won't. He still needs to keep tabs on me for what I did with poast
@lewdthewides @Frankurino @MrbrokeDome @teaclips @PonyPanda @GoodPerson @book blocks are still (somewhat) disclosed via mastoapi. malart hides posts from users who blocked me (like chudbuds, judging from the fact that this thread is broken for @Sui ) but on other instances i just open their profile up in subway tooter and see if there's a little red 🚫 beside the follow button
Chudbere's fixed that since, not sure what it was exactly. It's implemented on other instances like NCD though, and a few people recommended it. Think we had a poll on it?
We can now see people's posts who block us, we only get dead messages from those we defed and deleted messages now.
We can now see people's posts who block us, we only get dead messages from those we defed and deleted messages now.
@Sui @Frankurino @MrbrokeDome @teaclips @PonyPanda @lewdthewides @GoodPerson @book we decided to keep that block behaviour enabled on here because we want to maintain voluntary interaction between people, and a block is a pretty good indicator that someone doesn't want to interact with another person. guess we'll see how it works in practice when more users are on here, but given this is how it works on twitter, i doubt anyone will complain
on anime.website yeah i didnt care who could see my posts or whether i could see from someone who blocked me, but that was different
on anime.website yeah i didnt care who could see my posts or whether i could see from someone who blocked me, but that was different
Oh yeah, we still can't interact with the people who blocked us. At least without bypassing with alts.
We just don't get the broken threads now because someone was a little bitch about mere words. Considering there's zero reason required for a block, it seems far more fair (to me at least) to not allow thin skinned people/trolls the ability to break entire threads for others so easily. A defederation at least requires a janny to assess the situation, and I've made an alt to still see/communicate past those when I want.
Our instance basically only defederates pedophiles/pedo LARPers anyway, no big loss really but I do still like to see them rage about it.
We just don't get the broken threads now because someone was a little bitch about mere words. Considering there's zero reason required for a block, it seems far more fair (to me at least) to not allow thin skinned people/trolls the ability to break entire threads for others so easily. A defederation at least requires a janny to assess the situation, and I've made an alt to still see/communicate past those when I want.
Our instance basically only defederates pedophiles/pedo LARPers anyway, no big loss really but I do still like to see them rage about it.
@Sui @Frankurino @MrbrokeDome @teaclips @PonyPanda @lewdthewides @GoodPerson @book
>we still can't interact with the people who blocked us.
yeah i get that. malart still doesn't *advertise* blocks to other instances, but this is mainly out of concern for the instances with blockbots that end up causing more trouble than it's worth to notify of a block. blocks aren't even part of the activitypub spec, it's a mastodon invention and a potential privacy concern. either way, yeah, if i block someone (which i don't here, only mute, i don't care who follows me anymore unless it's a bot) then they can't follow me and i can't see their posts, so it still works
>we still can't interact with the people who blocked us.
yeah i get that. malart still doesn't *advertise* blocks to other instances, but this is mainly out of concern for the instances with blockbots that end up causing more trouble than it's worth to notify of a block. blocks aren't even part of the activitypub spec, it's a mastodon invention and a potential privacy concern. either way, yeah, if i block someone (which i don't here, only mute, i don't care who follows me anymore unless it's a bot) then they can't follow me and i can't see their posts, so it still works
@Sui @Frankurino @GoodPerson @MrbrokeDome @PonyPanda @book @lewdthewides @teaclips
>Our instance basically only defederates pedophiles/pedo LARPers anyway
it's a shame that most of them can't keep it in their pants for more than ten seconds at a time. but i do talk to some MAPs about things other than children, because they decide not to make it their entire personality, and they generally understand the problems that their attractions cause, and they don't post cp, so whatever. i can disagree with people and still talk to them
>Our instance basically only defederates pedophiles/pedo LARPers anyway
it's a shame that most of them can't keep it in their pants for more than ten seconds at a time. but i do talk to some MAPs about things other than children, because they decide not to make it their entire personality, and they generally understand the problems that their attractions cause, and they don't post cp, so whatever. i can disagree with people and still talk to them
A desire to defile children kind of undermines their opinion altogether for me, they become subhuman and devoid of any merit/respect. At least until we develop a method to keep them from interacting with children, some kind of VR/Drug matrix thing where they can enact their desires? I don't know what the future possibilities will be, we're not there yet though technologically nor societally. Ethical concerns need to take a back seat when it comes to the abuse of innocents.
Atm however, the optimal solution is death as that's the only available path that will break the cycle of child abuse. Most differences I can get past, more than most can I'd argue tbh, I'm not partisan and despite being very Libertarian I still happily converse with extreme authoritarians. But not if they desire children/animals, those individuals are broken and irredeemable units. I want them isolated, I want them to kill themselves and resolve the issue without intervention.
Atm however, the optimal solution is death as that's the only available path that will break the cycle of child abuse. Most differences I can get past, more than most can I'd argue tbh, I'm not partisan and despite being very Libertarian I still happily converse with extreme authoritarians. But not if they desire children/animals, those individuals are broken and irredeemable units. I want them isolated, I want them to kill themselves and resolve the issue without intervention.
@Sui @Frankurino @MrbrokeDome @teaclips @PonyPanda @lewdthewides @GoodPerson @book
>they become subhuman and devoid of any merit/respect.
be careful with this line of thinking because it causes them to stop listening to outside views on the subject of paedophilia. same parallel can be drawn with the alt-right and the social-justice movements. these people seek each other out and reinforce their pre-existing beliefs, you have echo chambers, and they end up causing more damage than if you just treated them like people and told them why their beliefs or attractions are damaging to others
i think most of us agree: we're against sexual abuse. the attraction isn't the act. i can play violent video games and not go out on a homicidal rampage, because i have self-control and a grounding in reality. people who support the production of CSAM or seek actual child victims are the real harm
>they become subhuman and devoid of any merit/respect.
be careful with this line of thinking because it causes them to stop listening to outside views on the subject of paedophilia. same parallel can be drawn with the alt-right and the social-justice movements. these people seek each other out and reinforce their pre-existing beliefs, you have echo chambers, and they end up causing more damage than if you just treated them like people and told them why their beliefs or attractions are damaging to others
i think most of us agree: we're against sexual abuse. the attraction isn't the act. i can play violent video games and not go out on a homicidal rampage, because i have self-control and a grounding in reality. people who support the production of CSAM or seek actual child victims are the real harm
>it causes them to stop listening to outside views on the subject of paedophilia.
I think that's a non starter. I know personally that none of my kinks/sexual interests derive from conversations, nor are they affected by them. I am attracted to what I am attracted to, and that's the end of it. It's a sexuality, not an ideology. I truly believe pedophilia and zoophiles need to put a rope around their necks, that is the only solution. Other forms of degeneracy/fetishism can at least be kept within consenting pairings/groups, children and animals are the exception.
Most, yes. Not pedophiles or zoophiles though, or "MAPs"/"Furries" as they like to call themselves. They are sexually attracted to things that cannot consent. They are for raping innocents and causing sexual abuse, whether they choose to flower up the language and use mental gymnastics or not.
That's an entirely different argument imo, violent videogames leading to violence is a "normalization" based argument that misconstrues causation for correlation (and there's not even that for violent videogames). They all cause harm, whether it is directly harming the unconsenting or humanizing pedophiles who will do just that. Give an inch, degenerates will take several miles until they meet a wall. I think the solution is when they're up against that wall, we put a few bullets in their head to resolve the issue permanently rather than waiting for them to gain another inch.
I think that's a non starter. I know personally that none of my kinks/sexual interests derive from conversations, nor are they affected by them. I am attracted to what I am attracted to, and that's the end of it. It's a sexuality, not an ideology. I truly believe pedophilia and zoophiles need to put a rope around their necks, that is the only solution. Other forms of degeneracy/fetishism can at least be kept within consenting pairings/groups, children and animals are the exception.
Most, yes. Not pedophiles or zoophiles though, or "MAPs"/"Furries" as they like to call themselves. They are sexually attracted to things that cannot consent. They are for raping innocents and causing sexual abuse, whether they choose to flower up the language and use mental gymnastics or not.
That's an entirely different argument imo, violent videogames leading to violence is a "normalization" based argument that misconstrues causation for correlation (and there's not even that for violent videogames). They all cause harm, whether it is directly harming the unconsenting or humanizing pedophiles who will do just that. Give an inch, degenerates will take several miles until they meet a wall. I think the solution is when they're up against that wall, we put a few bullets in their head to resolve the issue permanently rather than waiting for them to gain another inch.
@Sui @Frankurino @MrbrokeDome @teaclips @PonyPanda @lewdthewides @GoodPerson @book
>children and animals are the exception.
i don't understand this, simply because i despise rape and molestation—any form of involuntary victimisation, really. i don't see certain groups as requiring special treatment. any effort to reduce abuse should be able to protect *all* people and other sentient beings, barring self-defence obviously, because that is sometimes the only way to defend oneself from something fatal
>zoophiles
>"Furries"
good one
>children and animals are the exception.
i don't understand this, simply because i despise rape and molestation—any form of involuntary victimisation, really. i don't see certain groups as requiring special treatment. any effort to reduce abuse should be able to protect *all* people and other sentient beings, barring self-defence obviously, because that is sometimes the only way to defend oneself from something fatal
>zoophiles
>"Furries"
good one
Rape fetishism is a thing that consenting adults can engage in. It's actually a surprisingly common fetish for females, hence things like 50 shades of rape having so much success even with normies. It's weird, but it doesn't necessarily have to involve the unconsenting. Which is why children/animal fetishism is the exception. Consent is the biggest issue imo, not deviancy.
They are animal fetishists whether they are open "zoophiles" or not. They all sexually desire other animals than humans, which cannot consent. I'm not joking, they deserve the woodchipper too. Same with the "age roleplayers", there's simply too much crossover with raping things that cannot consent to ignore.
You kill cancer by taking it out at the root, not just chipping off the surface and calling it a day.
They are animal fetishists whether they are open "zoophiles" or not. They all sexually desire other animals than humans, which cannot consent. I'm not joking, they deserve the woodchipper too. Same with the "age roleplayers", there's simply too much crossover with raping things that cannot consent to ignore.
You kill cancer by taking it out at the root, not just chipping off the surface and calling it a day.
@Sui @Frankurino @MrbrokeDome @teaclips @PonyPanda @GoodPerson @book
>Rape fetishism is a thing that consenting adults can engage in.
rape fetishism is distinct from rape. paedophilia is distinct from child abuse. zoophilia is distinct from animal abuse.
>They are animal fetishists
everyone who jerks off to krystal from star fox is an animal fetishist and not just attracted to something unrealistic, got it
>Rape fetishism is a thing that consenting adults can engage in.
rape fetishism is distinct from rape. paedophilia is distinct from child abuse. zoophilia is distinct from animal abuse.
>They are animal fetishists
everyone who jerks off to krystal from star fox is an animal fetishist and not just attracted to something unrealistic, got it
Rape fetishism is very obviously linked to rape, you have to at least find rape acceptable to do it. Those that obsess over it are far more likely to force themselves onto others with whatever mental gymnastics come to their disturbed little minds.
I don't think I said child abuse is all pedophilia even once? Nor that animal abuse is all zoophilia. However both are categories within each. Seems disingenuous on multiple levels tbh.
If it's a fictional creature/hybrid, sure whatever. Fap/flick to whatever you want, idgaf, I don't see much harm to it. I'm going to laugh at you, and probably bully the hell out of you, but you do you and I'll do me. Being specifically attracted to animal/child traits is a massive red flag however, and those things actually exist and are real not "unrealistic". And that's overlooking the increasingly high rates of zoophiles within furry communities, again we kill cancer at the root, firebomb the lot of them if they wish to group up around the animal rapists. No big loss.
I don't think I said child abuse is all pedophilia even once? Nor that animal abuse is all zoophilia. However both are categories within each. Seems disingenuous on multiple levels tbh.
If it's a fictional creature/hybrid, sure whatever. Fap/flick to whatever you want, idgaf, I don't see much harm to it. I'm going to laugh at you, and probably bully the hell out of you, but you do you and I'll do me. Being specifically attracted to animal/child traits is a massive red flag however, and those things actually exist and are real not "unrealistic". And that's overlooking the increasingly high rates of zoophiles within furry communities, again we kill cancer at the root, firebomb the lot of them if they wish to group up around the animal rapists. No big loss.
@Sui @opal @book @teaclips @MrbrokeDome @PonyPanda @Frankurino @GoodPerson I don't find rape acceptable but I have fantasized and orgasmed to thoughts of raping and being raped.
People are into that, yeah, you can do it consensually.
I don't get it personally, but there are ways to do it ethically. Or more ethically.. I'd say it's probably denial if you can be aroused enough to jack it to rape whilst claiming to not find it acceptable.
I don't get it personally, but there are ways to do it ethically. Or more ethically.. I'd say it's probably denial if you can be aroused enough to jack it to rape whilst claiming to not find it acceptable.
@Sui @GoodPerson @book @opal @teaclips @MrbrokeDome @PonyPanda @Frankurino You only say that because you do not understand the self. I can find rape horrible and still fantasize about raping. How is that possible you ask. In the same way that it is possible for someone to love and hate their parents, or to love and hate their children, or to love and hate themselves. "I" am an illusion, "I" am many, and it is this "many" that is clashing within each of us and is how we come to make decisions and ways.
I say that because repulsion cannot be attractive tautologically. You can love and hate separate things about a thing or person, but even when we say things like "I hate my parents" we generally do love them it's more of a vent for temporary frustration. We don't actually hate them, even if we're annoyed by a situation we're in. Unless it's severe enough to make us love them less anyway, that can happen too.
Many? Sounds more like a multiple personality disorder red flag or something similar there. Above my paygrade.
All we are, is a bunch of chemical and electrical pulses running through an organ in a bone shell. Which is hooked into a flesh golem with sensory attachments allowing us to interact with what is external from our meatsacks. You can have conflicting signals, those are commonly disorders to a lesser or greater extent, but there's still a central core identity that makes you you.
Many? Sounds more like a multiple personality disorder red flag or something similar there. Above my paygrade.
All we are, is a bunch of chemical and electrical pulses running through an organ in a bone shell. Which is hooked into a flesh golem with sensory attachments allowing us to interact with what is external from our meatsacks. You can have conflicting signals, those are commonly disorders to a lesser or greater extent, but there's still a central core identity that makes you you.
@Sui @GoodPerson @book @teaclips @opal @MrbrokeDome @PonyPanda @Frankurino Ok so what is perceiving those sense signals? The self, and the self changes from moment to moment, like a fire. We are, each of us, explosions, slow motion ones, chemical reactions, and we reflect upon ourselves as a fire does, we see ourselves because we are many, and you don't see it that way, you consider us each to be a point of light, singular and unchanging. I disagree. We are not as in control of ourselves as you may think.
Fires don't reflect upon themselves.. That's a weird poem you're writing there lol. I prefer materialism to whatever flowery philosophy that's a part of tbh.
Are you trying to talk about predeterminism? Or are you talking about the lag between reacting to sensory information and us consciously justifying it afterwards? Something like that?
Are you trying to talk about predeterminism? Or are you talking about the lag between reacting to sensory information and us consciously justifying it afterwards? Something like that?
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@Sui @GoodPerson @book @teaclips @opal @MrbrokeDome @PonyPanda @Frankurino You thought I was saying the fire was conscious, that's on you. Fire, light emitted from the streams of excited gas, does interact with and effect itself. You know lots of big words but can't grasp simple concepts.
@Sui @GoodPerson @book @teaclips @opal @MrbrokeDome @PonyPanda @Frankurino You only call it flowery gibberish because you don't understand what I'm saying.
No, I call it flowery gibberish because it is flowery gibberish.
You likely only worded it like that solely because it's stupid, you know it's purely your opinion and you can't defend it without relying on platitudes to assert a false sense of superiority. If I'm wrong, please re-write it in English as I asked rather than doubling down on this tedious rhetoric technique. Then we can continue discussing it.
You likely only worded it like that solely because it's stupid, you know it's purely your opinion and you can't defend it without relying on platitudes to assert a false sense of superiority. If I'm wrong, please re-write it in English as I asked rather than doubling down on this tedious rhetoric technique. Then we can continue discussing it.
@Sui @book @teaclips @opal @MrbrokeDome @GoodPerson @Frankurino @PonyPanda O wow umad kek all those brains don't do you much good when you feel so awful do they? You make enemies out of shadows. I came for ideas you give me doctrine. You must be right because you say so, how very authoritarian of you. There's time to change and grow, into whatever you want. A prick faggot who doesn't understand metaphor then gets butthurt when he's disagreed with, or a cool wise dude who is chill.
Judging by that first sentence, that's a "You hit the mark and now I'll reee".
Cool. Off you run, back to your ball pit.
Cool. Off you run, back to your ball pit.
@Sui @book @teaclips @opal @MrbrokeDome @GoodPerson @Frankurino @PonyPanda You're a very smart person, and that's not sarcasm, now twist it into an insult so you can be a perpetual victim :)
> GG No Re
= Good Game No Rematch.
I'm bored of you, if I didn't make that clear enough, run along already.
= Good Game No Rematch.
I'm bored of you, if I didn't make that clear enough, run along already.
@Sui @book @teaclips @opal @MrbrokeDome @GoodPerson @Frankurino @PonyPanda You're funny, hope you get everything you deserve in life! Here's to your best possible fortune!
@Sui @book @teaclips @opal @MrbrokeDome @GoodPerson @Frankurino @PonyPanda PPDANCE BLOCKED ME HOLY SHIT I FUCKING SLAUGHTERED THAT NIGGER IN MINECRAFT
@Sui @book @teaclips @opal @MrbrokeDome @GoodPerson @Frankurino @PonyPanda The virgin "r-run along already!"
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The Chad "No"
@Jazzy_Butts @Sui jesus christ you two need to untag everyone else when youre having a fucking shouting match
@Jazzy_Butts @Sui muting this thread myself because its just fucking polluting my notifs
@Sui @GoodPerson @book @teaclips @opal @MrbrokeDome @PonyPanda @Frankurino That's not to say you will never grasp them, but so far you have not understood my main idea. That a human mind can hold two contradictory values at the same time, consciously or unconsciously.
Then use English and reason, not platitudes and poetry.
@Sui @GoodPerson @book @teaclips @opal @MrbrokeDome @PonyPanda @Frankurino The fact that you do not see reason in something does not mean it is unreasoned, and your failure is yours alone, not mine, or anybody elses. I have no ill will toward you.
The quick red fox jumped over the lazy brown dog. The quick red fox jumped over the lazy brown dog. The quick red fox jumped over the lazy brown dog.
You don't see my checkmate atheists level retort? That's on you, you're just thick as pig shit. Lol at this retard.
> I have no ill will toward you.
Your previous ad hominem attempts beg to differ, so you can drop that little lie. Now, cough up a legitimate argument/perspective or fuck off. I have nothing further to say to mere platitudes and your unearned inflated ego.
You don't see my checkmate atheists level retort? That's on you, you're just thick as pig shit. Lol at this retard.
> I have no ill will toward you.
Your previous ad hominem attempts beg to differ, so you can drop that little lie. Now, cough up a legitimate argument/perspective or fuck off. I have nothing further to say to mere platitudes and your unearned inflated ego.
Made simply no sense, I didn't assume anything. It doesn't logically flow, and there are weird platitudes in there like this. If you want to derail into ad hominems, sure thing.
Or you can continue to pretend to be smarter than you actually are with flowery gibberish.
Your call.