@Nanashi @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon Well maybe I misunderstood you, when I see "Motherly love is evil" I see a contradiction, love, motherly or not, is never evil. True love. True love is letting go and finding peace. It is not war, oppression, or any such thing.

@Jazzy_Butts @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon Romanticism and post-hoc contextualizations. Motherly love is functionally a mechanic of investing into her asset present in the child; and in cultural terms, it reifies the object-relation between parent and child.

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@Nanashi @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon You're talking about loves mechanical properties but that does not fulfil the experience of having felt love. I am in agreement with your assessment of the logical mechanisms which playout within the engine of the sports car we call love, but knowing how it works and riding in it are two different things.

@Jazzy_Butts @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon True, but I doubt whether the experience of love is relevant here.

@Nanashi @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon I thought since you said motherly love is evil you meant that their experience was evil, but I see now you meant their actions were evil, actions you claim spawn from the feeling, rendering the feeling itself evil. I disagree that the feeling itself is evil, but I understand well that wicked actions can spawn from feelings of love.

@Jazzy_Butts @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon A moral judgement on emotions (or the experience of emotions) is redundant. I care for the action and where they come from/where they go.

@Nanashi @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon And yet that last line isn't quite right either to me, because it is never love that spawns wicked actions, it is always jealousy, or fear that gets mixed in with the pool thus corrupting it. And so again it seems to me love is incapable of being evil.

@Jazzy_Butts @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon The priorities or conditions of the relation within which love springs forth are what I call evil here.

@Jazzy_Butts @11112011 @7 @Moon @coyote @laurel @p @rats Perhaps it was an unfortunate shorthand, and a bite of spite.

@Nanashi @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon When I speak of love, I speak of the feeling, the ride. Sitting in that sports car, and putting a fan in front of you so your hair can blow while you remain stationary is not the same as driving it, even though it may look the same.

@Jazzy_Butts @7 @11112011 @laurel @p @coyote @rats @Moon Car rides can be great for what they are. Though I tend to get nauseous from them. It is what it is: the experience is valid in itself, but I'd rather not the condition forth from which the experience comes.

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> in cultural terms, it reifies the object-relation between parent and child.

This is not the relationship a mother and child have in the best case, in the usual case, or even in most of the dysfunctional cases.

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