I love how Jordan Peterson says "It's metaphysical, not literal, that's how people speaaaaaak, you have to understtttaaaaaand there's DEEEEEEPER MEEEEEEEEEANINGGGGGGGG"
and
"Noooooo you can't say you're a woman because you're not a womannmnnmmmmmm there's nooo deeper meaning everything is litterrrrralllll omg my head my benzooooos!!!"

Talking out both sides of his mouth

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DON'T DO DRUGS WERES MY BENZOOOOS OMG

I used to think he was cool, then he said to stop watching porn and I knew, I KNEW, this guy was fucking retarded

@Jazzy_Butts
he's not wrong about that though, most people are attached to porn like it's the only thing they have in life

@doorroo That's their problem, I never talk shit about guns or drugs, and lots of people have problems with those too, because I don't blame problems on objects or others, problems lie with people.

@Jazzy_Butts

the objects reinforce and exacerbate the problem, drugs and porn alike chemically alter the brain which worsens the person, strengthening their attachment. i do talk shit about porn and drugs, the producers know exactly what they're doing to the consumer.

@doorroo you jump to a conclusion by saying thay the ways in which a person may be altered are always bad

@Jazzy_Butts

because i already know that they, the vast majority of the time, are bad with very rare exceptions

@doorroo All people are bad, little monkeys, who are only nice when they are very content. Porn and drugs are sold for money, money buys happiness. Idk what the problem with porn or drugs is. Pump the system full of them, any animal that ODs or jerks themselves off to death was naturally selected by evolution, that's life. I cried when my friends OD'd, because I liked them, but then they died, and they probably wouldn't have died without drugs, or they could have just slashed their wrists because they had never discovered drugs to numb the pain.

@Jazzy_Butts

'all people are bad', i'm not Talmudic. the bottom 80% of humanity are not desirable; the production of drugs (controlled amphetamine, moderate psychedelics, and some botanicals as acceptable outliers) and all porn both exist to placate this already developmentally challenged mass. i don't tolerate living in a World full of Ugliness, whether it be the appearance of people or crippled brainstates, so i fervently detest the tools used to keep it Ugly.
@Jazzy_Butts

money buys happiness only in the lower form of pleasures, as does porn only stimulate excitement in an artificial way, and non-essential drugs generally only simulate experiences humans are naturally capable of when they aren't atrophied

@doorroo I don't believe myths about people being able to manifest at will states of inebriation. Someone being super chill is not the same as drinking so much liquor that you're puking while the room spins

@Jazzy_Butts
i believe it since i've done it, it isn't hard at all - drinking till you're puking isn't comparable

@doorroo So you don't believe that humans can reach certain states without drugs, you just said that drinking until one pukes is not the same as peaceful meditation, so humans need drugs to get to certain states.

@Jazzy_Butts
what? are you illiterate. i said i believe humans can reach states without drugs because i can. and i said getting drunk is not comparable as it is simply shutting off your brain. how do you take that as the same topic.

@doorroo I think you're the one who can't see as far as I, so I wouldn't question literacy here if I were you.

@Jazzy_Butts
i really don't think you're seeing past the monitor
@Jazzy_Butts
that response makes no sense. coping about what? the fact that most people are broken?

@doorroo Yes, so since they're broken animals, why do you care? Be like me, I do not care. If they want to rot their lives away masturbating to porn and doing drugs that's none of my business, because I want to be able to watch porn and get drunk once and a while too, but if we followed Peterson there would be no porn for me too.

@Jazzy_Butts
i would not want to be like you, no offense, i like being fit and conscious. i care because i want a refined population, we have Earth for a reason, billions of people polluting it and wasting resources doesn't help It. i'd be glad if there were no Porn, i only disagree with Peterson on how easy he thinks it is for people to stop

@doorroo I would never try to refine a population by protecting it from itself, I want people to be free to destroy themselves if they'd like rather than be automatons for my own enjoyment

@Jazzy_Butts

and by the time they destroy themselves they've taken half the Nature and wildlife with them, not something i stand for

@doorroo So you think the beautiful angel that is man, is only burning, cutting, and killing, (more than before) is because of porn and drugs. I've got a very different view of the soul of man. We are animals, born from the dirt, with the spirit of being trapped in the shell. That is all we are.

@Jazzy_Butts

if i thought those were the only reasons i'd have said so. what i said, you can read it a few messages above, id that porn and drugs exacerbate and placate men. they cogs in the machine of problems. and no, only some men are born from dirt.

@doorroo and I say let the fools be placated lest they obstruct us in the streets

@doorroo I only mean to show you things as I see them, insults aren't needed.

@Jazzy_Butts

the notion of the laissez-faire, human waste acceptance argument itself is insulting to me, almost a lazy and defeated mindset, passive of evil in my eyes

@doorroo and he IS wrong, he's saying pixels hold power, he's saying these beautiful big brains of ours influenced by Roman thought are so feeble that we are nothing more than machines, yet then he speaks of the human soul and our ability to withstand fucking death camps because we are so strong...like what? The second part is what's true, so idk why he spews out the bullshit about sinful light dirtying peoples souls.

@Jazzy_Butts

Roman thought was poison as is, of course pixels hold power. something you watch frequently that influences your tastes, response and constitution is more than just pixels. and yeah, Death Camps, if they existed, don't corrode you in an unseen way. a cancer versus a hammer to your rib.

@doorroo I see cope, and I was talking about Holodomor since that's what Peterson talks about

@Jazzy_Butts

i don't understand what this cope thing means without context. Holodomor was a famine, there weren't death camps.
@Jazzy_Butts
more of a manslaughter than a murder. they were collectivising food from Ukraine and didn't intervene when the people starved

@doorroo much like batman leaving someone on a train after setting it to crash, it's still murder

@doorroo@mirr0r.city @Jazzy_Butts@gameliberty.club There isn't actually any evidence that Stalin intentionally did it to murder Ukrainians. The Ukrainian government lobbies for it to be recognized as a genocide which is unproven.

@vivernu @Jazzy_Butts
hence i said "Famine" not "famine designed to genocide"
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