@MischievousTomato @arts @kallisti I think the problem is also that we look like we carry a lot of rocks. like you calling people fragile faggot retards people see that message 'boom' they are gone! currently, I wouldn't say I like the words you use but I believe you to be a nice person. like people might be fragile but it's best not to look like you're coming with a bunch of rocks. that's just my take though.
@TrellisHugo335 @MischievousTomato @arts if you dont come at them with a bunch of rocks they roll you over
@TrellisHugo335 @MischievousTomato @arts the social culture in a lot of these places is essentially of extreme unproblematicness and i think that i'd get kicked off many instances pretty quickly for even talking about the things i talk about
@kallisti @MischievousTomato @arts How confident on a 1-10 scale are you in that you'd get kicked off?
@kallisti @TrellisHugo335 @MischievousTomato i can keep myself sterile enough to not get kicked off of places but i also wouldnt exactly be enjoying myself and if im being professional id rather be getting paid or getting something out of it at all
this is v much my natural state here and im 100% certain i would be kicked off yes
this is v much my natural state here and im 100% certain i would be kicked off yes
@arts @kallisti @MischievousTomato What about your natural state do you think you'd get backlash for?
@TrellisHugo335 @MischievousTomato @kallisti you and i know each other because this is a space where im allowed to talk to people different than me
on the list of reasons we've been blocked by other instances, frequently they explicitly say it's because we allow ourselves to talk to people they dont like
on the list of reasons we've been blocked by other instances, frequently they explicitly say it's because we allow ourselves to talk to people they dont like
@arts @MischievousTomato @kallisti Hmm, wow that is concerning. know have you ever tried to be sneaky and look at their instances just to see what they are like? I'm honestly curious about what I could learn if I was on one of them.
@TrellisHugo335 @MischievousTomato @kallisti in the absolute best case scenario they are like people sharing diy projects/book clubs, in the worst they are just endless feeds of shitposts where the only joke people feel comfortable making is spelling words wrong
@arts @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @kallisti I remember that from my Twitter and Tumblr days
It fucking sucked
the arts and crafts were cool though
It fucking sucked
the arts and crafts were cool though
@AbNormal @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @kallisti i like arts/crafts, i like reading, but it's nicer to get really different perspectives on a given work than my own...
just more interesting to be presented with everything and i'm fiercely independent enough that i wouldnt accept anything else
just more interesting to be presented with everything and i'm fiercely independent enough that i wouldnt accept anything else
@AbNormal @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @kallisti it actually just occured to me that i think for the mastodon side there is "dignity" in cleaning up your instance so people don't see anything bad and over where we are there is "dignity" in never blocking anyone (because it's cowardly)
@arts @AbNormal @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 rheres a mistaken belief that defederation serves to deplatform effectively
@kallisti @AbNormal @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 an important thing for ppl to remember in the cases where you could say that deplatforming 'worked' eg. milo, that's because he was a person who was supported by the highly parasocial relationships present on the platforms he was operating on. getting him banned from twitter had a big impact because he had influence on a lot of people there - the same social dynamics truly do not exist here
@arts @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @kallisti Because on Twitter you don't make friends, you build followers
Now sure it's still CALLED following over here
But there
It's more literal
Now sure it's still CALLED following over here
But there
It's more literal
@arts @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @kallisti But of course, it's trying to move over here too, what with graf and garg and all the others trying to build their domains larger instead of outward, building walls instead of bridges
But we must resist
We must fight against the memetic scourge that plagues the internet and society
But we must resist
We must fight against the memetic scourge that plagues the internet and society
@AbNormal @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @arts on a tangent i love memetics and ive yet to find a consistent argument against it
@kallisti @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @arts memetics and infohazards spook the hell out of me
Probably why I loved SCP
Probably why I loved SCP
@AbNormal @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @arts i dont mean the scp thing i mean the theory of information scp thing is based on
@AbNormal @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @arts scp uses memetic as a word for conceptual: a memetic kill agent is a concept / perception that kills you
the theory of memetics is that ideas / concepts / notions / practices / beliefs / perceptions (condensed into memes) function akin to a species of life, and experience evolution and mutation
the theory of memetics is that ideas / concepts / notions / practices / beliefs / perceptions (condensed into memes) function akin to a species of life, and experience evolution and mutation
@AbNormal @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @arts different memes have different adaptations and forms that make them better suited for either adapting or dominating
@kallisti @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @arts yeah no I went all in on the weaponized memetics idea and kinda forgot about the base concept
@AbNormal @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @kallisti did someone say weaponized memetics https://archive.org/details/codex-galdrux/
@AbNormal @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @kallisti
friend: weaponized memetics as in scp
me: [internet ptsd vibes] no weaponized memetics as in
friend: weaponized memetics as in scp
me: [internet ptsd vibes] no weaponized memetics as in
@arts @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @kallisti @AbNormal the info war = weaponized memetics = propaganda?
@Jazzy_Butts @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @kallisti @AbNormal for me thegame23 was more like anti-propoganda, or like, self-healing propoganda fractal, and the propoganda is for itself
federated qanon maybe
some hints to it here: http://www.cybergnostic.xyz/
it's its own thing, nightmare endless reality game
federated qanon maybe
some hints to it here: http://www.cybergnostic.xyz/
it's its own thing, nightmare endless reality game
@arts @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @kallisti @AbNormal the only "the game" I know of is where a person makes a circle with their fingers, and if you look at it they get to punch you, or "the game" where if you ask what the game is, you lost it.
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@arts @MischievousTomato @TrellisHugo335 @kallisti @AbNormal I hate both those games btw
