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>Politicians should be banned from lying, any politician caught lying should face the harshest penalties
<But we all lie sometimes, we are human, we make mistakes
>Aye but lending credence to such defense will enable liars
<So are we to hold politicians to the standards of gods?
>No I think not, lest they become gods by our doing
<So then what do we do?
>I know not, I only know that there is a problem
<As do I

@Jazzy_Butts easy solution, get rid of politicians, through violence if necessary

@mushroomfemboy Not possible, political power falls on the shoulders of those there are, not until all human life is extinguished. Take away the top layer, and it will fall to the next, and they will rise, if their platform cannot carry their capacity, they will begin eliminating each other until equilibrium.

@Jazzy_Butts no I'm pretty sure a world without politicians is totally possible

@mushroomfemboy I already explained why I disagree, and you've already explained your belief, you are repeating yourself, which makes you look defensive.

@Jazzy_Butts if you explained why you disagree I did not notice that

@mushroomfemboy The part where I said power falls upon the shoulders of those who are present, people self organize, which is voluntary as opposed to be organized by force or coercion.

@mushroomfemboy I wrote a bunch of stuff but then deleted it just now because I think you're being retarded, and not having a serious conversation, I can be retarded too, as you've likely seen many times

@mushroomfemboy fair enough, I still don't understand what you are unclear about when it comes to power fallig, like snow, it gathers upon the highest positions, and thus covers the lower ones from receiving any snow, if they are removed the snow will gather on the second highest, and so on.

@Jazzy_Butts looks more like they’re refusing to understand than a language barrier lol

@Jazzy_Butts oh god, one look at their bio and immediately i know they reject all that is right both factually and morally lmao

@mushroomfemboy Not as in insult, it literally makes you look unsure about your own position, which I think you are, because you haven't explained it, you just assert something is possible and leave it at that

@Jazzy_Butts I'm very sure of my position, it's yours I don't understand
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