I may renounce mapism or I might not, I will always support difference acceptance, but maybe map doesn't describe me, it's been a lot of thinking, very hard, so many in the community are not my people at all, it really is reflective of wider society. There are dentist maps, and conservative maps, and leftist maps, and all kinds of maps, and the only thing tbey have going for them (or we for us) is that they're (we're) all aware of mapness. But what is mapness? Done to death, arbitrary age. So then what really matters? Facts. Secondary sex characteristics start as young as 9, everybody knows and has seen the talks ad infinitum. So what I am saying now has nothing to do with those talks. All I am saying is that differences can either be accepted, or they can be shunned, naxi or left a PURITY SPIRAL is the same. DIFFERENCES THAT DO NOT HARM ONE, ARE TO BE CELEBRATED. IS THIS WHAT THE FASCISTS ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT FEAR? DIFFERENCES???