@ulith @gloomyflower I get the feeling from this one yt gymnastics fam channel that the dad is kind of overly intense, and fake happy, and the girls seem to be having fun enough but it still looks like he's using his children as props somehow, not in a nice way? Idk. It's so hard to judge because it's not like anybody can learn much from a heavily edited yt video. Some of the dads of these channels give definite DLmap vibes (not that there's anything wrong with being a map obviously look who I am saying this but still, it kind of weirds me out...and again... that's me saying it so ... I'm a weird fuck and yea.).