The more extreme the right gets, the more they focus on the most miniscule genetic or cultural variables as decisive factors (i.e. whether you are 95% + European/native admixture or only 87%, or whether you're against all porn, or whether women should not exist in public etc...). That is the rightist "purity test".

It's so ludicrous.

They're constantly trying to signal how "right-wing" they are by just hating more and more and more groups, often to their own detriment and often in total contradiction to the precepts of their own ideology. That's all they have at this point, mindless sadism.

Eventually they're going to make everyone and their mother hate them. At that point, they'll have achieved total "purity", but at the cost of being unquestionably seen as the villains.

Meanwhile, the "far-left" may be "extreme" and "purity spiralling" in their own way, but their "purity" tests are based on being consistent with their principles.

And the essential "principle" in question is, you have to care about the smallest minorities. If you don't care in some way about them, then you fail the test.

That's infinitely more reasonable than the "far-right" test. Nothing about immutable characteristics that can't be changed or spiteful hatred. Just a test about being ideologically consistent regarding the treatment of other people.

I saw a video the other day from "Valuetainment" (an org set up by Patrick Bet-David, a swindler Trump/Elon stan), where an insane Texan police officer is going over all the death-row executions hes seen, and he says "after a certain amount, I stopped counting". And the host and the guest laugh at that like it's a funny joke that anyone would tell at a dinner table.

It reminded me of similar interviews with Vietnam war vets, talking about how the war broke them and turned them into monsters. "Body count, body count, body count".

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When I was in university doing my MA, one of the readings we had to do was Frantz Fanon's seminal work, "The Wretched Of The Earth".

There is a part in the book where Fanon writes about how he had to counsel a French officer who tortured Algerians; how the torture inflicted broke both the victims as well as torturer.

It is a tough book to read, because it deals with extreme ultra-violence. And the Algerian revolution was extremely violent.

But it highlights how those in authority who engage in abuses are just as likely (even more-so, frankly) to suffer psychological problems due to their actions when compared to their victims.

Victims can at least say "I was the victim in this". Perpetrators have to hide the fact that they were the ones who engaged in it. They have to spin it, so that they are the good guys, otherwise they will see themselves as monsters. Therein lies the root of the psychological problems they experience.

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@Aldo2 Yes it's not like flipping a switch. It's behavioral conditioning, that can't just be undone. Before Germany learned they would use officers to do mass killings, the officers became like demons after a while, attacking and mutilating their fellow soldiers and themselves. And so they came up with a way to kill using only one soldier, and in a way so that he didn't have to watch, the gas chambers.

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I mean, I'm kinda skeptical of the "gas chambers" line still.

I do however aknowledge mass-shootings, use of auxilliaries, deaths due to overworking, deaths during transit (forced marches at the end of the war and cramming people in railway carriages early/mid-war).

But, as to your general point, yes, as the war progressed, one thing becomes quite clear. The Germans went from a policy of using large amounts of ordinary soldiers/officers to do the killing to using a select few vetted men to do it in specific locations away from prying eyes.

@Aldo2 I don't get to make a soda chair, that dispenses soda into people's mouths to maintain their blood sugar levels, and then strap people into it and turn the soda on so high that it pressure washes their faces off and kills them, and then NOT call that the soda death chamber, I just don't get to do that. So yea maybe it was for delousing, but they decided to use it to poison people instead, because they increased the amount so much that it reached toxic levels, and they did that because it was the easiest, least suspicious way to kill people. Bullets were for the war, hammers are too slow and messy, hey there's all this bug spray laying around, and it's cheap! Fuck it use that! No one will ask questions about why we're ordering it, either!

@Jazzy_Butts fair enough.

On a semi-related note, it is crazy to me how, when compared to the Israelis, the German National Socialists were still concerned about international opinion enough to think up plausible excuses or to try and cover their tracks at least a bit.

Israelis revel in the slaughter they inflict. They seem to love it. Almost as if it's......Sexual, for them. It gets them off.They want others to see it, too.

I don't know about the Russians. Ukrainians claim it's the same sort of thing, and granted there are cases of heinous crimes, but I don't think it's on the same level. If the Russians kept any traits from the old Soviet days, it is the need to maintain good public relations (of course, much of it is done by lying).

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@Aldo2 the Germans did not have the world's sympathy to the same degree the Jews do, the Germans fucked up that sympathy when they started to annex Nations that were way out of their range like France, and even then America was not going to get involved until Pearl harbor, Germany's association with Japan is what fucked up their reputation, if I was the Nazis I would be so mad at those fucking slant eyes for doing that shit. And yes every nation commits genocide the point is that it's always wrong, just because Germany is the first White Nation to actually have to sit and apologize for that shit doesn't mean that it's bad for them to do that, every Nation should apologize for the sins of its past and then they should move forward and everyone else should let them move forward.

@Aldo2 and if we want to talk about acceptance I mean would you look at the protests that are pro Palestine, Palestine the Muslim run extremist shit hole where they throw gays off fucking roofs, yeah people are supporting them instead of Israel so it really depends where you're looking and when you're looking because I can tell you that the public opinion on Israel is shifting quickly it went from if you hate Israel you're a Nazi, to, if you don't hate Israel You're a Nazi, that is whiplash my friend, that is quick.

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