@LukeAlmighty @lovelymiss @Heartiste My compromise stance is that man-made activity is contributing to climate change, but that Western countries shouldn't destroy their economies over it. It's not like that would stop climate change anyway because the 3rd world is responsible for so much of the troublesome emissions nowadays. Also, given how much a 3rd worlder moving to the West is likely to increase his or her carbon footprint, no serious environmentalist can support mass 3rd immigration to Western countries.