So @rasterman, I've been watching the Dick Masterson - Andy Warski debate on Loli. Warski did about as poorly as I expected, his main argument being the Thought Crime one, without even daring to fully commit to that either. He provided no compelling argument for why censorship of Loli was different from censoring violent video games, ESPECIALLY since he seemed to be saying that if a game let you kill children and rewarded you for it, he'd want that game banned. So it's apparently not even about pedophilia, Warski is just a white knight for fictional children in general. And he's openly Anti-free speech.

@rasterman The one argument that really destroyed Warski was the one about Rape Porn. Of course there's overlap between people who watch Loli and Pedophiles, just like there's overlap between people who'd like to commit Rape and people who watch Rape Porn. Loli depicts little girls in sexual situations, without any actual children being harmed or exploited. Rape Porn depicts Rape, without any actual Rape taking place. Furthermore, there are reasons people can like those things without being future pedophiles or rapists: The rape porn can obviously appeal to those into rough sex, domination, female submission and humiliation etc. Loli can appeal to those liking petite women without visible body hair, as well as those who prefer smaller breasts. Depending on how they're drawn, anime girls look very different from IRL children, while the goal of rape porn really is to make it look like the real-life woman is being raped.

Warski had no comeback for that. He just babbled incoherently about "consent", but the whole point of rape porn is to make it look non-consensual, and it's absolutely retarded to apply the concept of "consent" to drawings and fictional characters. If Loli should be banned because pedophiles might enjoy it, then Rape porn should be banned because rapists might enjoy it. Not to mention that murderous psychopaths might enjoy playing GTA simply to kill as many people as possible.

@rasterman Warski also really did try to play the Japan Bad card. Sure, Japan might have extremely low rates of rape, but hey, that age of consent is super-low (not actually that much lower than many European countries, but Okay Boomer).

If Warski had actually bothered doing any sort of fact-checking, he'd have seen that it's not like Japanese children are having lots of sex because of the AoC:

https://www.indy100.com/article/virginity-map-7319976

Apparently the Japanese on average lose their virginity significantly later than Westerners. Even accounting for the male "herbivore" perma-virgins bumping up those numbers, it doesn't seem like a lot of Japanese 13 and 14 year old girls are having sex, let alone sex with adults. Warski is a fucking idiot.

@rasterman Warski also really tried to blame Loli for California gradually legalizing pedophilia. As if our Elites being pedophiles is something new. Islam was founded by a pedophile rapist. The Catholic Church is run by pedofaggots. Celebrity pedophiles like Jimmy Savile and Dennis Hastert probably weren't big consumers of Loli (or Shota). How many people hadn't actually seen nude children until they were exposed to Loli? This isn't some super niche fetish we're talking about, children are everywhere, and actual pedophiles would probably get off to non-sexual depictions of child nudity, which is hardly that rare or hidden away.

Again, Warski is a fucking idiot.

@rasterman Dick made a much better point when he talked about how the arguments and methods used to justify criminalizing and cracking down on Loli will inevitably be used to persecute wrongthinkers for "hate speech". Not to mention that the pedophile Elites are way more interested in going after, say, pro-White people, than they are in going after actual pedophiles in the first place. Think about it: How many of the Globalist Elites do you think are Pedophiles? How many do you think are Pro-White? If you give them more Censorship powers, more tools of Oppression in the name of combating pedophiles, you can be 100% sure that those tools are going to be more used against pro-White people than against Lolicons, let alone actual pedophiles.

@rasterman "Warski refers to himself as an intelligent adult"

My fucking sides!

@rasterman "I'm not trying to protect kids"

At least Warski admits in a roundabout way the drawings aren't actual children.

@rasterman Warski is a "Recovering porn addict" with room temperature IQ. Nigger needs to stop projecting his flaws onto everyone else.