kinda disappointed that if you look up "leftism" on youtube, prageru comes up multiple times before any popular left-wing channels

@mewmew try looking for 'regressive' while you're at it

But yeah... I had the exactly same problem while lookimg up Libertarians. Sometimes, you just don't know the correct word to use when looking these things up.

@LukeAlmighty *shrug* yeah, conservatives are the real regressives and should be called as such

@mewmew yeah, since conservatives are pushing for segregation soo much these days...

I guess it will be better to end the political talk here, since it's obvious we do belong to a different corners of the triangle.

@LukeAlmighty @mewmew

The question we should ask: is "progress" good?

It's an argument from novelty, really.

"If it's newer, it's better."

The conservative argument: trust that which is tested by time.

@amerika @LukeAlmighty of course, that's why you're regressives. you're one step away from people who think the earth is flat.

@mewmew @LukeAlmighty

Except that we have known for thousands of years that Earth is not flat.

We like that which works in reality.

You like that which works in a social setting.

But, that fails over time, because that social setting is WITHIN reality.

@amerika @LukeAlmighty I dunno, most conservatives I know are religious

@mewmew @LukeAlmighty

Most are, because religion keeps re-inventing itself, which means that it serves some role. Therefore, we want the sanest religion we can get. I think that's changing however as conservatives flee churches.

@amerika @LukeAlmighty I like Marx's take on religion.

I don't think it's possible to have cultural conservatism without religion, honestly. And as for economic conservatism - sure - but economic conservatism is just bad economic policy.

@mewmew @amerika @LukeAlmighty "cultural conservatism can't be had without religion" most of the regimes espousing state atheism in the 20th century send their regards

@allison @LukeAlmighty @amerika state mandated atheism

@allison @LukeAlmighty @amerika more seriously - conservatism mandates authoritarianism, but authoritarianism doesn't imply conservatism

@mewmew @LukeAlmighty @allison

What is authoritarianism?

Conservatives like strong leadership that enables people to live normal lives and be left alone.

The Left wants to intervene in their private lives to force them to conform.

This might be interesting:

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2010/11/anarcho-monarchism

@amerika @allison @mewmew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnIdtPjK3w8