wait instathot hotties are coming here??? do they take 10grans??
@pernia @VD15
i already spent all my grans on my friends and lume.
@pernia @VD15 with lume it was cause he was talking about giving me money or something?? so i was like no u and exercised my largesse courtesy of a newly bequeathed endowment from pimp daddy moon. i always do that when men want to spend money on me. also i just love giving gifts.
@georgia @pernia I'd like to pay you in a withdrawal from the sperm bank
@VD15 @pernia is this about the cum as currency post apocalyptic scenario? cause human cum isn't worth very much.
@georgia @VD15 @pernia

> cause human cum isn't worth very much.
> not storing the cum of the smartest individuals
@orekix @VD15 @pernia i'm thinking a frontier kinda barter system, not eugenics.
@orekix @VD15 @pernia while i don't think there's a sacred right to reproduce, the question is always who decides what's eugenic and what's dysgenic. very slippery slope to say one life is worth more than another.
@georgia @VD15 @pernia

that's why I said positive eugenics and not negative eugenics

positive eugenics = reproduction of superiors
negative eugenics = killing of inferiors

it's the latter that is the slippery slope because as you said who determines that, whereas the former is just encouraging the people to pass on their genes
@orekix @VD15 @pernia but they're both done with the understanding that some people are more worthy than others, certain people being encouraged is not unlike certain people being discouraged. i think pro-natalism could have the same effect of counteracting the tendency of people to have kids below the the replacement ratio as their living conditions improve.
@georgia @VD15 @pernia

> some people are more worthy than others
where's the lie
@orekix @VD15 @pernia worthy of what? life? to judge a persons worth is folly not to mention callous. perhaps what you mean is "they will contribute more to society", but intelligence isn't the greatest measure of that. (and also fuck society)
@georgia @VD15 @pernia

> they will contribute more to society
yeah pretty much this, you want the mathematicians and engineers and scientists and musicians to not disappear

> also fuck society
no
@orekix @VD15 @pernia our society rewards mediocrity fundamentally. breeding good little soldiers/corporate drones. the fact that people who champion eugenics also stifle the human spirit is not lost on me. i mean, they want human genius and creativity to work like a farm or assembly line. it doesn't work like that.
@georgia @orekix @pernia So why are you not willing to raise an army of autists with me, then?
@VD15 @orekix @pernia bro. i like you a lot. i'd trust you with my life. i'd even live with you. I just don't want to have sex with you, i'm sorry. you gotta learn to let that go.
@georgia @VD15 @orekix @pernia >live with vd
>possibly want kids in the future
Ok just use the turkey baster method!
@georgia @thestrongest @VD15 @pernia

> But as for you, be fruitful and multiply; spread out across the earth and multiply upon it.
@orekix @VD15 @pernia @thestrongest i'm secular.
in the end i don't know what i'm doing. even if i wanted to have kids, i consider paid surrogacy highly unethical so i'd never do that. goals is bimaternal offspring and she hosts it.
@VD15 @orekix @pernia @thestrongest selling the bodies and risking the lives of women in third world countries wresting their offspring from their arms upon fulfillment of a contract for flesh isn't immoral?
@georgia @VD15 @orekix @thestrongest you're such a dipshit sometimes georgia. its more like getting someone you know to have your kid, you don't need to industrialize it for fucks sake
@georgia @VD15 @orekix @thestrongest no its not. if you don't want to harm "women in developing countries" then pay someone in your country to do it
@pernia @VD15 @orekix @thestrongest there's the same power dynamic with women in developed countries. it's poor minorities selling their eggs and wombs at the cost of their health and even life.
@georgia @pernia @orekix @thestrongest BUT NOT AGAINST THEIR WILL!

Same shit happens for medical trials. Same shit happens with so. many. lines of manual labor. Is an otherwise consenting exchange immoral because there's a risk to one's health attached?
@VD15 @orekix @pernia @thestrongest >not against their will.
look you can say the same about people who make ends meet by selling their blood. if they were well off they wouldn't do it. hunger is a pretty strong motivator.
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@georgia @orekix @VD15 @pernia @thestrongest
You could say tbe same thing about any job...

I am quite rich and I love my job. But I woudn't do it for free, so they are exploiting me, since if I quit now, eventually I would run out of money and starve.

I agreed to my job, because it is the BEST option. No matter how shitty it might seem to you, it would be seriously assholish of you to tell me I should get a different one, because you don't like it.

I see it the same way with any shitty but conscentual job. It was their best option. No need to take it.

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