@Rude that's too broad for me. Would apply to basically any live service game, any garbage new age AAA game, and some older games too

@Jessica @Stellar

@dielan @Rude @Stellar if putting money into any game gives you any gameplay-based perk, then it's pay to win.

@dielan @Rude @Stellar I'm okay with cosmetic upgrades, but anything that you have to pay for to get an advantage I wouldn't bother playing.

@Jessica @Rude @Stellar @dielan IM SO FUCKIN MAD I HAD TO PAY TEN FUCKIN GDOLLARS FOR A MOUSE JUST SO I COUDL COMPETE IN QUAKE FUCKING SCAM AAA JEWS SHOULDVE JUST DESIGNED THE GAME AROUND KEYBOARD CONTROLS BUT NO TJEY HAD TO GIVE FUCKING MOUSE SCUM AN ADVANTAGE FUCK YOU

@why and all fighting games with fightstick compatibility are P2W too!


@Jessica @Rude @Stellar

@dielan @Jessica @Rude @Stellar also what do you mean pay to win? does anyone win a mmo? it's not designed to conclude it just keeps going forever and ever. what princess do you save at the end of world of warcraft, your mom from her disappointment in you? literally can't win, so it's not pay to win.