windows 7 is basically windows vista.1

@null That's actually not that hot of a take. The real hot take is that Vista (as distinguished from Longhorn) was a completely necessary evolutionary step in the right direction and that Microsoft tends to set goals that are way too ambitious for their own good (I get the feeling we will see history repeating itself here with Windows 11)

@allison @null as much as vista was "a bunch of features for digital hubs, cancelled by iPhone" and "MVS mismanagement for the new century", it was also very much "technical debt restructuring program" and that would have been controversial from the stuff it would have had to broken, albeit for good reason

@libc @null That combined with a few unpolished parts (original UAC) and the steep hardware requirements tax for the time are honestly most of the reason Vista was as hated a release as it was.

@allison @null eh, vista's requirements were reasonable; 7 was basically the same. the problem is XP let OEMs keep selling 2004 bottom of the barrel HW well into 2008, and pikachu face when it runs vista like a dog

@allison @null for reference, i was running a pentium d with 1 GB of RAM in 2007 - vista was fine on such HW