@xxshtxx
more like genius. all men should reject all women like this
@Publius @coolhandjames

@PapaPol @Publius @coolhandjames wat is ur purpose in talking to these women? to make them into psycho lesbian man haters?

@xxshtxx
to shame them into being more feminine. dont be rude or cruel. just very politely and apologetically tell them youre not into trans girls and wish them good luck.
@Publius @coolhandjames

@PapaPol @Publius @coolhandjames that wont fix anythign u idiot lmao. all u do is contribute to the crusade against men

@xxshtxx
the "crusade against men" is a fad. women literally cant live without us. theyll get over it sooner or later
@Publius @coolhandjames

@PapaPol @xxshtxx @Publius as anyone who has ever had any form of relationship with a woman knows.

@coolhandjames @PapaPol @Publius the divide between men and women only gets worse until the race goes extinct or relies on cloning

@xxshtxx @PapaPol @Publius yes that is what someone who only lives online and has no interaction with people in real life would say

@coolhandjames @PapaPol @Publius ok retard. why do almost every woman leave their retard husbands then? not cus they wana work

@xxshtxx @PapaPol @coolhandjames

Because she get alimony payments for the rest of her life without having to cook or clean for him or have sex with him. Its purely a financial/ legal thing. Nothing to do with her seeing a mean tweet from "womanhater69XD" or something.

@Publius @PapaPol @coolhandjames cuus you married a retarded crazy bitch because you are a fuckign retard

@xxshtxx @PapaPol @Publius - implying all women aren't retarded and crazy.

Definitely zero interaction with women in this guys life.

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@PapaPol @xxshtxx @Publius @coolhandjames I think it’s a rhetorical problem. If you say “take women’s rights away”:

You are agreeing with the progressive view of history that women were oppressed instead of protected.
You are implying that the solution would be bad for women because you’re trying to take their rights away.

So, that will naturally make people shy away from the idea. What we need is an accurate description of what “rights” they would lose and a better framing to describe it.

@MrNobody @PapaPol @Publius @coolhandjames @xxshtxx the argument for saying "take women's rights away" is that whatever language you use, however you frame it, it's going to be interpreted as the taking of women's rights away, and that's what you'll be accused of. So if you don't have the spine at the outset, you'll just reveal yourself to not have a spine as soon as the counterattack comes.

Although it's reasonable to be skeptical of someone telling you to say "yeah! we *are* the bad guys! WHITE POWER"

@apropos @PapaPol @Publius @coolhandjames @xxshtxx

it’s going to be interpreted as the taking of women’s rights away Sure, by your political opponents, but ideally you should frame it in a way to convince people who could be persuaded.

Some things that people perceive as rights simply aren’t. No fault divorce, alimony, division of marital property, the “right” to serve as combat troops, the “right” to serve in any capacity at all as an agent of the state, etc etc.

@MrNobody @apropos @xxshtxx @coolhandjames @PapaPol @Publius
Except that is the problem.

Most people see no problem with women having right to enslave/inproson any man they want because... They would never do that without a SERIOUS reason right? :alexjonessmile:

@LukeAlmighty @apropos @xxshtxx @coolhandjames @PapaPol @Publius I’m not sure I understand your point.

But when passing those bills, women certainly didn’t frame them as the enslavement of men.

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@MrNobody @apropos @xxshtxx @coolhandjames @PapaPol @Publius
Oh... How do you call working against your will under a threat of imprisonment, and giving your earning to enother person who owes you nothing in return?

@LukeAlmighty @apropos @xxshtxx @coolhandjames @PapaPol @Publius They called it their rights. And it worked. Had they said “we should enslave men to work for us or go to jail”, it probably wouldn’t have. That’s my point, that sometimes, you need a proper framing to be able to pass policy. It doesn’t even need to be deceptive, it just needs not to sound bad.

@MrNobody @apropos @xxshtxx @coolhandjames @PapaPol @Publius
And that is why I refuse to use their framing.
It is slavery, and they do believe that.

And you would be surprised just how many faces full of shame have I seen when I made people realize exactly what they do believe.

@MrNobody @apropos @xxshtxx @coolhandjames @PapaPol @Publius
And it is also an important test.

When they know it is a slavery, some of them will not change their mind. That is when you know they truly believe in the holy V... (about 85 percent of people from my experience)

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