@underwater @LukeAlmighty @PrettyHateMachine @rasterman @tfmonkey I don't think he believes it's good at all but it's inevitable in certain circumstances. He likes globohomo except for the fact that women have rights.

@MoralPanic @rasterman @LukeAlmighty @underwater @PrettyHateMachine

Racial identity is the PRODUCT of being a persecuted minority with no national identity, that's why the fact that white people don't have one is a blessing. It shows how good white people have had it.

Those days are coming to an end though. That's what I meant.

Racial consciousness won't save you though, the Progressives have already laid the groundwork to declare white people the scapegoat for everything wrong.

Ironic no?

@tfmonkey @rasterman @LukeAlmighty @underwater @PrettyHateMachine So if I recall this thread started with you blaming women and deflecting criticism of jews. Then you claimed only minorities have a valid reason for racial identity and that whites would only develop one because they will become a minority. Now you're saying that even if whites adopt a racial identity it won't help them.

Seems like you just want white people to die, am I wrong?

@MoralPanic @rasterman @LukeAlmighty @underwater @PrettyHateMachine you recall incorrectly.

I blamed the empowerment of women for the demographic replacement, because that's a fact, and it has shit to do with Jews. you see the same thing throughout Asia and throughout the western world. In fact, the one developed country with a decent fertility rate is Israel because the Orthodox Jews actually kept their pimp hand strong.

I'll address the racial identity mischaracterization separately

@tfmonkey @rasterman @LukeAlmighty @underwater @PrettyHateMachine
>I blamed the empowerment of women for the demographic replacement, because that's a fact

Your argument is that women stopped being breeding stumps after gaining equal rights so that requires shitskin immigration because muh economy or whatever. Every society that modernizes collapses their birthrates because they don't require as much farm labor so they can pursue luxury lifestyles. That is not the result of woman's emancipation, woman's emancipation was the result of capitalists who saw profit in expanding the labor pool by literally half.

>In fact, the one developed country with a decent fertility rate is Israel because the Orthodox Jews actually kept their pimp hand strong.

No, it's because these orthodox jews are tasked with being the breeders since the liberal jews pursue luxury lifestyles. They get paid by their government to sit around, argue talmudically, and pop out children because that's good for their race. But were I to suggest that whites use the government to incentivize their births I'd be called a eugenicist or something. Why do jews always get a pass, and why are people like you always willing to grant it? It's because we all know jews are the ruling class, so they have privileges.

@MoralPanic @rasterman @LukeAlmighty @underwater @PrettyHateMachine

I've done my research, here is a study from Finland which shows that while MEN can become as rich and educated as they want, it only negatively affects fertility intentions when WOMEN become rich and educated.
demographic-research.org/volum

Regarding the Orthodox Jews, the Swedish get even more generous welfare benefits than the Orthodox Jews do, yet don't have children. It's not the welfare that's the secret ingredient,

@tfmonkey @rasterman @LukeAlmighty @underwater @PrettyHateMachine
>It's not the welfare that's the secret ingredient,

It's race, stop coping. These orthodox jews study everyday about how they're the chosen people of g-d and that you're cattle created to serve them, that's the secret ingredient, it's in-group preference. That's why socialism works for them but not the de-racinated Swedes.

Can you just concede at this point? I'm getting bored.

@MoralPanic @rasterman @LukeAlmighty @underwater @PrettyHateMachine

no the secret ingredient is patriarchy. Want to know how I know? Because Asians are very racist and xenophobic, and everything you claim is the answer, and their fertility rate is dogshit.

Why? Because the secret ingredient is patriarchy and taking women's rights away.

Ironically, China is actually starting to do something about that, so ... brush up on that Mandarin.

@tfmonkey @rasterman @LukeAlmighty @underwater @PrettyHateMachine I have a better explanation for their dogshit fertility rates than you do, they modernized their economies and brought women into the workforce as a result. They didn't give women rights just because they thought it was a good idea, they wanted to compete globally.

@MoralPanic @rasterman @LukeAlmighty @underwater @PrettyHateMachine The US and Britain literally created the modern economy via Capitalism and the Industrial Revolution, and yet married women didn't work outside the home until WW2 when they worked in factories while the men fought, and then fought for workers rights as part of second wave Feminism.

@tfmonkey @rasterman @LukeAlmighty @underwater @PrettyHateMachine They fought for worker's rights and got them because jewish communism brought pressure onto western countries to compete with an economic system that rejected the natural order in favor of materialist pursuit, which is all that communism is. Communists rejected the natural categories of race and gender to justify rapid industrialization and restructuring of society, which conveniently for our greatest allies allowed them a seat at the table of power. For all your railing against communism you ironically share many of its values.

@MoralPanic @rasterman @LukeAlmighty @underwater @PrettyHateMachine

I know to you it seems that equality and freedom are the same thing because "degeneracy", but they're actually mutually exclusive opposites.

Also, Communism was a response to the inequality caused by Capitalism and Industrialization, not in pursuit of them.

In fact, since you're a Nazi, I'm sure you remember that Fascism was considered a "third way" between Capitalism and Communism, and now known as "state capitalism".

@tfmonkey @rasterman @LukeAlmighty @underwater @PrettyHateMachine
>I know to you it seems that equality and freedom are the same thing because "degeneracy", but they're actually mutually exclusive opposites.

People shouldn't have the freedom to self-destruct, life has to have meaning.

>Communism was a response to the inequality caused by Capitalism and Industrialization, not in pursuit of them.

Communism was a justified response to injustice but not woman's rights?

>In fact, since you're a Nazi, I'm sure you remember that Fascism was considered a "third way" between Capitalism and Communism, and now known as "state capitalism".

I'm all for combining the best aspects of capitalism and socialism.
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> People shouldn't have the freedom to self-destruct, life has to have meaning.

Why? What gives you the right to decide how I should live my life? What values and actions should I derive happiness and meaning from?

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@LukeAlmighty @rasterman @underwater @tfmonkey @PrettyHateMachine
>What values and actions should I derive happiness and meaning from?

The same values that led to you being here today, what your ancestors did for hundreds of years. They might have worked, they might have fought, but one thing is for sure, they propagated. It's your responsibility to honor them by doing the same. That by necessity excludes flushing your genes down the toilet by race mixing, or by being a genetic dead end deviant. If freedom gives you the possibility to waste your life then freedom is not worth having.
@LukeAlmighty @MoralPanic @underwater @tfmonkey @PrettyHateMachine Devil's advocate here: if the way you live your life proves detrimental for the group at large, the group might have an interest in preventing you from living your life the way you see fit. :cirnoShrug: It certainly works better with the example of the drug dealer lowering the neighbourhood's property value and making it more dangerous as his home becomes a crack den or addicts start hanging out nearby. The negative externalities of his own choices affecting others is what might make his lifestyle unacceptable to others.

@rasterman@freespeechextremist.
Fair enough... I agree that destructive actions are definitelly a great exception.
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Oh, I hoped you will say that @MoralPanic . What are you going to do about all of the white educated strong independant women, who either work their asses off till they're 80? Or with the single moms who cannot take care of a Cactus, and definitelly not a child?

@LukeAlmighty @underwater @tfmonkey @PrettyHateMachine I don't have a 25 point plan for you, I'm just some asshole on the internet, not the fuhrer. My main goal is getting whites in an era of globalization to take their own side politically, however that shakes out will be for the history books. If that's still in a thing in the future.
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