@TheMadPirate
Btw, that was a real example. I knew a kid who was that disfigured.
Life expectancy: about 6.

His mother took such an amazing care of him, she more then doubled it. And when he died, she died a month later.

1 fucking murder could have let her to have a healthy kid and see it grow. She would still be alive and everyone would be better off. Most likely including the first kid.

seeing that teaches you about life...

@LukeAlmighty @TheMadPirate really valuing human life here aren't we

@merchantHelios @TheMadPirate
Yes.
Unironically yes.

Both of their lives were misarable, and she gave her entire life in trade for a few years of misery, that the kid had.

I value life, not heartbeat. I value smelling the trees and women around me. I value taste of every food. I value philisophy and I value making people smile.

He did not have a life, and she lost one.

@LukeAlmighty @TheMadPirate in your version of society, who would judge the value of human lives?

@merchantHelios @LukeAlmighty Nature

@TheMadPirate @LukeAlmighty so are we supposed to stop practicing medicine then? To let nature do its job

@merchantHelios @LukeAlmighty No, we don’t. We just abolish all form of welfare state, included corporate welfare.

@merchantHelios @TheMadPirate
Oh yes... The famous "If you were a dictator" question.

Guess what. I am a libertarian. I do not want anyone to judge the value of human life ffs.

But the government made a judgement and they say, that it is better for my grandma to live 3 years alone in cage then 2 years in my company. And my grandma has no say in the matter.

Your question is invalid because it implies me judging while we live in judgement free society. But our governments do judge already and they are amazingly bad at it.

@merchantHelios @TheMadPirate
So my anwser is:
"Anyone but your worthless falacy using, debate destroying, virtue signaling ass"

@LukeAlmighty @TheMadPirate feel like it's a pretty fair question, why so defensive?

@merchantHelios @TheMadPirate
> so are we supposed to stop practicing medicine then? To let nature do its job

Yeah... you definitelly went into this in a good faith.

@LukeAlmighty @TheMadPirate That's The Logical conclusion of what you had just said, if you think that's bad faith then I don't know what to tell you

@merchantHelios @TheMadPirate
This isn't my first day on the internet, and bad faith arguments are way too easy to spot.

So I hope to debate you one day, but after what you have said today, you are incapable of debate yet.

@LukeAlmighty @merchantHelios Sorry, I couldn’t help but to make this job. You just made it so easy…. LOL. No bad faith intended.

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@TheMadPirate @merchantHelios
Nah, it is a great post.
Thanks, it made me laugh.

@LukeAlmighty @merchantHelios

There is nothing wrong with practicing medicine. The problem is subsidizing that which is detrimental to society. That leaves no room for betterment, for optimization, is dysgenic to say the least.

@TheMadPirate @LukeAlmighty that's all well and good until the wrong people start deciding who and who isn't a detriment to society

@merchantHelios @TheMadPirate
REPEAT
Your question is invalid because it implies me judging while we live in judgement free society. But our governments do judge already and they are amazingly bad at it.

@LukeAlmighty @TheMadPirate I saw this the first time you sent it. Now I'm curious though, what do you mean we live in a judgment free society? Also I should note I agree governments do an amazingly bad job, though perhaps for different reasons than yourself

@merchantHelios @TheMadPirate
That means, that the judgement on who shall and shall not die IS ALREADY being made. And it is being made on a massive scale.

And it intrudes into my everyday life. And your question on WHO skips the question IF.

And I refure this government based judgement on the "if" level. Simple as that.

@LukeAlmighty @merchantHelios You are already judge unworthy if you don’t take the jab ( actually you are valued as a criminal ), for example.

@TheMadPirate @merchantHelios

@merchantHelios @LukeAlmighty But people can decide that unless they start toying with the free market, at which point it would stop being a free market. Now I agree that, because of the primal fear i.e. fear to what can’t be known, they will eventually try to rig the free market.

@merchantHelios @TheMadPirate @LukeAlmighty There will always be an elite or a government deciding that, as there is right now. Governments have in fact stated that they'd deny me access to medicine because I am "unwanted" (unvaccinated).
And I don't even care, because I do believe that overuse of medicine is bad and dysgenic and if I couldn't survive without regular visits to the hospital then I shouldn't.
Of course this statement is easy to make, when I don't need regular visits to the hospital to survive, but likewise it is easy for someone who does need such visits to make the statement that "getting medical assistance is a human right".

@merchantHelios @TheMadPirate
*And I would forget.

I am decensive, because based on exactly this kind of government judgement, I am already forbidden from living. I am locked up in a cage away from family and society.

So you know... it's kinda open wound.

@LukeAlmighty @merchantHelios @TheMadPirate How depressingly materialist. A life spent in service to a child is not real but a life spent looking at scenery, drinking wine, and having sex is.

This is one of a few inevitable conclusions to the idea that life is a cosmic accident and death leads only to annihilation.

@DrRyanSkelton @TheMadPirate @merchantHelios
Yes, I believe that live of freedom and hapines is incomporable with a bedridden life full of pain.

@LukeAlmighty

That’s heartbreaking. How do we get to a point in which we are no longer able to judge the worth of people ?. And more importantly, why can’t be see that by thinking that everyone is worthy we are reducing the worth of all people to zero ?.

@LukeAlmighty @TheMadPirate

this is consistent with my observation about tards, the insane, and narcissists/sociopaths

they are nothing but dead loss

murder is a life-saving venture at that point

@amerika @LukeAlmighty Jeremy Bentham would be excited to live in modern times.

@TheMadPirate @LukeAlmighty

we all live in the shadow of utilitarianism

"see those people eating bugs, owning nothing, living in high rises and working in high rises? they say they're HAPPY"

@amerika @LukeAlmighty

Exactly. Meanwhile the word happiness is devoid of meaning because we all end up being subjected to whatever the guy with the biggest club believes happiness is…for himself.

@amerika @LukeAlmighty @TheMadPirate what a shitty parody

@kuken @amerika @LukeAlmighty That's the best description of Utilitarism I've ever heard.

@TheMadPirate @kuken @LukeAlmighty

In the end, in my analysis ("Crowdism") utilitarianism is just hubris converted into group pathological herding behavior. "Whatever most of us think is OK, should be the new reality" seems to be the rule.

I took the traditional morality summation from Plato (of corpse!).

@amerika @kuken @LukeAlmighty

In the end, in my analysis (“Crowdism”) utilitarianism is just hubris converted into group pathological herding behavior. “Whatever most of us think is OK, should be the new reality” seems to be the rule.

That coincides with my own assessment. It is no coincidence that Utilitarism is that the core root of SJW ideology. More so because you are forced by the mob to comply with their definition of what constitutes “being happy”.

@TheMadPirate @kuken @LukeAlmighty

Agreed. The big secret is: there is no cause; Crowdism is just humans not thinking clearly, and it happens every time we have a group of humans. It's a defect in the species, not Evil Jews or Evil Rich People tweaking our noses.