I have no idea what drug caused this, but this ain't funny. it's disturbing.

Is this really just IQ?

@LukeAlmighty no one sane ask questions like that, so non-autistic people just default to "how old were you, 10 years ago"
@LukeAlmighty how? that humans do basic interactions without thinking?

Are you really policing yourself and making conscious decision to say "good morning" "thank you" and "goodbye" every time you enter the shop?
Dont be ridiculous

@NEETzsche @xue
And they say, it's the autistic people who are unable to catch the social clues...

I often suspect that I'm mildly autistic myself because so many of my friends are and because of what my hobbies are. I think I mentioned this several times now but I have some memory issues: I think that psychiatry just pathologizes personality types with a lot of its diagnoses, including ass burgers
@NEETzsche @xue @LukeAlmighty People under around 90 IQ are unable to process hypotheticals.

You could ask, "How would you have felt yesterday if you hadn't eaten breakfast?"

They would respond, "But I did eat breakfast. What do you mean?"

"Yeah, but if you hadn't, what would it have been like?"

"No, you didn't hear me...I ate breakfast yesterday."

"But if you hadn't..."

"But I did..."
I'm aware. Compelling thing to remind me of though
@NEETzsche @xue @LukeAlmighty In the case of this video, someone in the 90-110 range might quickly say something like their current age minus 10 years, and then when challenged realize that they were asked a trick question and laugh about it.

Someone lower than that range would continue to insist that they are right and that the person asking the question is an idiot, without parsing the words more carefully or imagining the scenario (of being "born 10 years ago").
@victor @NEETzsche @LukeAlmighty
ay lmao
IQ isnt real, thats freemason bait to lure narcissistic individuals

"Oh look at me, i scored 190 on solving mazes and maching patterns" ayyy lmao

@xue @victor @NEETzsche
Go to a gypsie occupied area and talk to them. TALK TO THEM FOR 10 FUCKING MINUTES, and tell me, that IQ doesn't exist.

@LukeAlmighty @victor @NEETzsche I aint gonna do that
first of all, i dont speak gypisie
but also, i value my belongings
@LukeAlmighty @NEETzsche @victor yet another metric that tries to reduce something much complicated to a single number, like wtf, its loosing information on purpose

@xue @victor @NEETzsche
Yes.
Reducing a complex phenomenon into a single number is the essence of any useful metric.

@LukeAlmighty @victor @NEETzsche
First, IQ isnt metric, for metric you need two variables
It more resembles estimator but:
1. You can make any estimator you want, and it doesnt need to provide any useful information
2. What kind of estimator that is, when it can return different data for the same person

It is arbitrary device, to check how good you are with solving special case of mazes
And you attribute any real world value to it? lmao
It's literally a metric. It measures something. You just don't like what it measures.
@NEETzsche @victor @LukeAlmighty metric has to do all of the below
1. it has to equal 0 only the same element
2. it has to be symetric, d(a,b) = d(b,a)
3. triangle inequality

It isnt metric, it is another made up shit by psychologists, who dont care about science, they just write what they think
@NEETzsche @victor @LukeAlmighty
oh, let me think of another
p s y c h o m e t r i c
xDDDD
Your score will be 5 and Luke's 10.
Here, valuable, scientific invention

@xue @victor @NEETzsche
Btw, do not think, that sociology is not full of garbage.

for example, EQ is a bullshot metric, that miraculously corresponds perfectly to breast size.

But IQ is not one of them.

@LukeAlmighty @xue @victor @NEETzsche >EQ is a bullshot metric, that miraculously corresponds perfectly to breast size
Yo, what the fuck?!

@Jens_Rasmussen @victor @xue @NEETzsche
Women with big boobs have no problem in any social situation, and everyone is interested to talking to them about their feelings.

therefore, they have a high EQ.

@LukeAlmighty @victor @xue @NEETzsche I don't know shit about EQ measurements, other than that they are extremely faulty, especially compared to IQ measurements.
But I'm pretty sure EQ is supposed to measure your capacity for sympathy, empathy and sociability rather than how likable/pretty you are.

@Jens_Rasmussen @victor @xue @NEETzsche
Well, next time you hear anyone describe EQ, take a moment to think, if the exact situation they describe would play differently for me, or for Big Booba Babe.

@LukeAlmighty @victor @xue @NEETzsche EQ isn't about what happens in social situations, it's about understanding it. And also to some degree about being understandable in a social situation.
@LukeAlmighty @victor @xue @NEETzsche I still don't think we're talking about the same thing. Women above the age of 35 who don't understand others or can't read social situations have generally never been able to, from what I've seen.

@Jens_Rasmussen @victor @xue @NEETzsche
Ok, let me explain it this way.
If you have booba, every conversation you have begins with goal of the opposite party to be as likable as possible.
If you don't have booba, this expectation is reversed.

So, there is no "social skill" actually needed on the side of the woman (relatively speaking) to get desired result.

It is as if you were comparing selling stuff to giving away money. The skill required to complete task is in a completelly different reality.

@LukeAlmighty @victor @xue @NEETzsche But EQ has nothing to do with making others be likable, as I've been trying to say.
EQ (Emotional Quotient) is about being able to understand others. And not just verbally.

@Jens_Rasmussen @victor @xue @NEETzsche
Except it's fake. It is measured by self report of how well can you maintain relationships. If EQ was real, and actually did exist in women as described, divorce courts would not exist.

@LukeAlmighty @victor @xue @NEETzsche EQ is real, measurements for it are horrible or outright bullshit, women are not particularly good at it unless the subject matter is other women or perhaps young children.

@Jens_Rasmussen @victor @xue @NEETzsche
If you want to debate about the ability for empathy, I could agree there.

But EQ has nothing to do with it. Equating EQ to empathy is the same as equating feminism to equal rights. These terms are so masaquered by common understanding, that using them in some "specialized meaning" is pointless.

@LukeAlmighty @victor @xue @NEETzsche But EQ does equal empathy, among other things?
No one except you uses EQ as synonymous for "charm" or "attractiveness".
@Jens_Rasmussen @xue @LukeAlmighty @NEETzsche

There is such thing as people skills and empathy, but EQ is just a made-up way to make women feel "included" in the workplace.

"Men have higher IQ, but women have higher EQ, and EQ is actually more important in a business setting where forming connections is critical!"

That sort of thing.
@victor @xue @LukeAlmighty @NEETzsche >Being allowed to recognize that men have higher IQ
What is this? The 90's?

Jokes aside, EQ is an attempted way to measure empathy, sympathy and other social skills. The fact that this attempt has little to no success at producing an actually good test of measuring these skills discredits the term "EQ" as a whole, and I can understand why you'd reject it's usage for that reason.
It can more or less be translated into "social skills" the same way IQ can be translated into "intelligence", if you're using it off-handedly and in a non-scientific way.
Example:
"I have high IQ" = "I am intelligent"
"I have high EQ" = "I am good with people"
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@Jens_Rasmussen @victor @xue @NEETzsche
> "social skills"
These two women ask you to do a task for them. Do you think it's "social skills" that will make the difference?

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@Jens_Rasmussen @victor @xue @NEETzsche
And yes, the one on the right is "good with people".

Good enough actually to make her a millionare without working.

@LukeAlmighty @victor @xue @NEETzsche You can be "good with people" to some extent without having high EQ, just like you can appear smart to some extent without having high IQ. Your point is irrelevant.
EQ is about your ability to understand, not to manipulate.
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