The area in light yellow represents territory that Ukraine has taken back in the month of September.
In total, about 10,500 square kilometers, almost exactly 10% of what Russia was holding in total at the start of the month.
@admin Earlier you claimed that the Ukrainian death toll was around 10x the Russian one. How do you reconcile those figures with the facts that Russia failed to take Kiev, is mobilizing, and is losing territory in the East?
>Russia failed to take Kiev
Russia put about 1/3 to 1/2 of the forces they assembled to take Mariupol into the Kiev AO, which had double the number of defenders that Mariupol did. In other words, the ratio was off by a factor of 4. The move on Kiev was a gamble for a quick end to the war via capitulation or internal military coup. the gamble failed, but there was never a battle for Kiev, and all of the RU units participating in the maneuver were rotated elsewhere because (unlike the recent suicidal Pyrrhic UA advances) there were hardly any losses
>is mobilizing
The UA regular army was defeated in June. Since then there has been tens of billions of equipment sent by Uncle CSAM, who is also footing the bill for the Ukraine's civil service salaries. at this point "the Ukraine" is 100% an American-run colony/vassal being held together by literal guns to the heads of the untrained civilian "meat" (their word) they send to get bombed by Russian artillery while the remnants of the professional forces attempt desperate last-ditch maneuvers that have already failed in the south and will shortly culminate in the north
> is losing territory in the East?
literally What The Fuck Are You Talking About. UA continues to lose day by day in the east. Wagner is just about done with the industrial zone of Bakhmut, which is the hardest nut to crack. they will begin taking the residential areas in the next few days, which are significantly more difficult to defend. the YOLO push in Kharkov required rotating men and equipment out of Soledar/Bakhmut, leaving it dangerously exposed. the collapse of UA lines in the east will now accelerate
Russia put about 1/3 to 1/2 of the forces they assembled to take Mariupol into the Kiev AO, which had double the number of defenders that Mariupol did.
The 40-mile-long convoy that was stalled outside of Kiev is estimated to have had around 15,000 troops in it, and that’s just the troops from on direction, who never made it to Kiev, which was being approached from multiple fronts. The Mariupol offensive is estimated to have involved 14,000 Russian troops, so your claim makes zero sense. Maybe you mean a force half the size of the Mariupol offensive actually made it, though 😉 .
but there was never a battle for Kiev
Is it only a battle for Kiev if there is fighting in the city? Or does a successful defense that prevents them from ever getting that close mean there was no battle? If the latter, I suppose you’re technically right. But while there was no real battle in Kiev, there was absolutely a battle for Kiev, and it lasted a month before the Russians finally gave up.
The UA regular army was defeated in June
Lol. LMAO even. Even Russia’s claimed numbers don’t come close to justifying this. You guys say the most insane shit.
literally What The Fuck Are You Talking About.
The 10,500 square kilometers that Russia controlled a month ago, but that doesn’t control now. You know, the territory shown in the map at the top of this thread. It’s high res, you should check it out.
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Yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah, this week’s post about why Ukraine is about to collapse that I’ve been seeing for months now. It’ll be interesting to see what your new theory is for why Russia is about to make a breakthrough in November.
stop watching Tv
Never had cable, my sources are better lol. Funny how you guys consider yourself enlightened for knowing TV news isn’t trustworthy, when close to 90% of the population says the same thing.
Nope, wrong again. Feel free to ping me to gloat if your latest Ukraine front collapse theory actually pans out though.
“Here’s a picture of Russia’s latest production tank. This is proof that their equipment is modern.”
“No, I didn’t know that they only have like 20 of these”
“No, I didn’t know that nearly 60% of the Russian tanks getting destroyed or captured in Ukraine now are Soviet-era”
“No, I didn’t know that as of a few months ago they started sending in the Vietnam-era T-62”
“No, I haven’t thought about how arguing that their equipment is modern and capable just makes their current performance seem all the more pathetic.”
You’re right, I should switch to the official Russian propaganda sources. Russian state media, as we all know, has an excellent track record, and is known for their reliability and honesty in all their endeavors.
Honestly, if you guys actually had decent sources like you pretend to, you wouldn’t have gotten so angry when I was telling you that it was looking like Russia was seriously underperforming way back in March. Instead, you would have been arguing with the guys claiming everything was fine.
Russian state media, as we all know, has an excellent track record
Yeah. Let’s instead trust the people behind…
Ghost of “Kyiv”
Russians firing on nuclear plant
Snake Island sailors killed
That fat fuck “Russian colonel” that didn’t exist
Recapturing of villages Russia never occupied
Bucha massacre
Tochka-U missile incident
@PonyPanda @admin @dave @DK_Dharmaraj
Ghost of Kyjev was such a great joke 
Almost to make it obvious right at the beginning of the war, that you shouldn't even bother trying to make sense of it
