@NEETzsche
Yeah, obviously. I am not arguing against the health aspect.

@LukeAlmighty I can't speak for other people, but I'm my own case, there's also an element of challenge to it. That is, I like it because I can do better than I did last time. Right now my bench is 275lbs (~125kg) at 5 reps. But the thing is, I want to get up to 3 plate, or 315lbs (~143kg).

If I'm being honest with you, it's sort of like getting better at a video game or something like that: "I want to run this Mario kart track in 1 minute and 50 seconds instead of 1 minute and 55 seconds." I'm not sure if other people are impressed by my improvements in what I can lift, but if I'm being honest I also don't really care.

So I think that to some extent if you continue to do the gym stuff you will condition yourself to at least kind of enjoy it, mostly because of its positive consequences such as sleeping better and being measurably stronger. But if this line of thinking just isn't convincing to you, then I don't think it's really my place to try to tell you what to do with your life. So I'm not going to belabor the point further.

@NEETzsche
While 1.5 month in, I do feel better in my day-to-day tasks, the ego definitely ain't getting the hit you're talking about from it.

@LukeAlmighty Well, them's the breaks I suppose. I also recall having gym buddies in my fraternity when I was in college. Now, I'm aware that fraternal bodies are sort of an American thing, but I also think it's probably healthy to lift your weights with other people. You can kind of make a contest out of it, again, much like a video game. There was a social element to going to the gym when I was younger, and I've noticed in the past few years that it's diminished. You'd go there, you'd try to btfo the other guy lifting while you're spotting each other. You'd exchange dubious bro science. Some of it would work, a lot of it wouldn't. But you get some good tips that you just wouldn't get out of a scientific journal or one of those men's magazines.

In your case, I don't think the social element would help as much. Because you've been diagnosed with a form of high functioning autism, I don't think that you are wired to really care about or need this kind of companionship. In fact, you might be wired to avoid it. In spite of this, I'd still give it at least a bit of a shot, because most of us have enough peculiarities and deviations from the categories we are placed in to merit experimentation. I don't regard this "diagnosis" as a pathology, as much as I do regard it as a personality trait. I sometimes speculate that I might have an undiagnosed form of this, but I will say that in my personal life I have enjoyed the company of autistes much more than normies, so I think that the disinclination to fellowship is in no small part about finding people of like mind.

@SpaceElf @NEETzsche
Obvious gaslight is obvious.

@LukeAlmighty @NEETzsche You perceive it as gaslighting, but only because you refuse to do the minimum to take care of yourself. It is 3 days a week for thirty minutes.

You're not being smart, seeing some greater truth. A man should be strong, disciplined, able to endure a little inconvenience or he's just an unsightly child, a burden on those around him.

It's pathetic.

@SpaceElf @NEETzsche
Just get it out.
I don't even care why did my post trigger you, but if you really need to feel superior to a rando on the internet, so be it.

@LukeAlmighty @NEETzsche I don't want to be superior to you. I want you to brush your teeth and bathe you fucking spastic.

@SpaceElf @NEETzsche
And you think that shaming will help you change the world?

Men don't react to shame, but guild. Just a slight advice for the next time.

@LukeAlmighty @NEETzsche What I thought was that you were an adult. That I could illustrate to you that you were failing to perform basic self care, that you were neglecting your responsibilities and failing other people. That it was unpleasant for those who can give you opportunities and would keep said opportunities from your reach, because you’re broadcasting you are weak and lazy.

I tried to remind you that you’re failing yourself by choice, out of sheer laziness, wreathing it in childish complaints, like so very many ‘men.’

I clearly thought wrong because you reacted to being told to do the basic self care routine every adult man should be doing with revulsion and arrogance elsewhere in the thread out of a defensive reflex to protect your man-child status.

But this is an open forum and if I can’t get through to a shameless pig like you, maybe I can plant the seed of a little personal responsibility in someone else.

@SpaceElf @NEETzsche
Have a nice day asshole.

@LukeAlmighty @NEETzsche

@SpaceElf @LukeAlmighty Shaming tactics only work on people who you have power over. I don't think you have power over this guy.

@SpaceElf @LukeAlmighty Bro fuck off with this crap.