It’s so tiring to see that this is the culture war issue we’re fighting over now. And every “operator” is now showing up with guns to this shit. 😩
@dave
Sorry, but no.
If protecting childern isn't worth fighting for, what is? Oil? Gold? Zelinsky?
You get my point.
@LukeAlmighty This is another “please touch grass” moment. Kids aren’t getting raped here. It’s concerning that they want to do “kid-friendly” drag shows at all, but retards showing up to these with guns is just turning this into a fucking powderkeg.
@dave
I am so happy you're not escalating this argument by lazy one-liners.
My point is, that one side cares about safety of childern, and that is admirable. I wish I knew what armed lefties are doing there, but if you cannot see why protecting kids is a worthy cause, then, I really don't get your morals.
@dave
First off, why the personal attacks? “I see why you take after NEETzsche”
I am talking for myself here, there's no need to get uncivilized.
And I think you missed my point. The leftist activism is protecting child abusers. They have been doing it publically, and are proud of it. So of course, after decades of escalation, many good people are ready to start shooting.
If you are doing a "child friendly" show, saying" It's child friendly, you can check it yourself" would make wonders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArOQF4kadHA
So once again. They want to protect kids. If you cannot see the value in that, and are willing to push against that goal, any reasonable person will escalate.
First off, why the personal attacks?
It’s not personal attacks, it’s just commentary based on what I see. You believe that under a natural order, black people should be enslaved by white people, and any resort to violence by black people to free themselves from enslavement by white people is inherently unjust. I find this repugnant, and whenever you bring up arguments about violence in general I am reminded that you hold this view, and it annoys me.
@dave
> You believe that under a natural order, black people should be enslaved by white people,
You are fucking delusional
@dave
I expected, that you live in a fantasy land, but this is just insane.
@LukeAlmighty This is clearly evident based on what your position that the Haitian Revolution wasn’t justified. The Haitian Revolution was about black slaves overthrowing their white enslavers. You don’t think it was justified, therefore you believe that black people should not be able to rise up against enslavement by white people.
If you would like to disprove this, please cite a historical example of white people rising up against their black enslavers, which you also feel wasn’t justified. If you cannot provide an example, this proves that I am right.
@dave
I am just blocking you
It's not like you read what I say anyway.
And go get some help man.
@LukeAlmighty Thank you for proving that I am right. My name is Dave, and I am very smart.
Ok, you should be un-muted now.
@dave
Sorry, but I seriously wasn't in mood yesterday, to argue about the most ridiculous stance I have ever heard you mention.
And when you say, that I suppord absolutely immoral and vile position A:
You believe that under a natural order, black people should be enslaved by white people
And justify it by B:
The Haitian Revolution wasn’t justified.
Neither of which I believe, then excuse me, but who the fuck have I been talking to for so long? Do you ever stop and read the stuff I write? Do you just copy-paste from your books? Why do you refuse to anwser even simplest axioms about what you believe?
I just don't get it man, but what you wrote yesterday crossed the line on so many levels, and I still don't think you understand how stupid it was.
@LukeAlmighty I understand exactly how stupid it was, that was the point. It was literally just NEETzsche’s argument but inverted.
@dave
Ok, I unmuted you hoping you thought about what you wrote since yesterday, but it seems, you are too stupid to get the hint.
@dave
Also, if I say, that I believe, that uprising against slave owners is justified, and you ask me to find an uprising, that was justified...
Bruh, you are insane. Literally. Your brain cannot comprehend A = A.
@LukeAlmighty The argument was supposed to be frustrating. You keep repeating NEETzsche’s argument, that I must be anti-white, on the basis that I think the Haitian revolution was justified, and you think I need to “prove” that I am not anti-white by finding an equivalent historical example with the races reversed. I’m trying to help you understand how tedious this argument is.
@dave
So, you just admited to making shit up in bad faith?
You marked me with opinions I don't believe in, asked me to prove point I don't believe, and added conditions I don't believe, knowing that...
Bruh, you are actually retarded. but thatks for proving, that not a single line of argument from you should be ever taken as honest.
You marked me with opinions I don’t believe in, asked me to prove point I don’t believe, and added conditions I don’t believe, knowing that…
Yes, just like NEETzsche did, and which you for whatever reason kept repeating.
There’s no possible reason you’d prefer them
There is if I just think of it as slaves killing their enslavers to secure their freedom. And that view is probably whitewashing (hehe) some of what actually happened, but it was my mindset when I was asked the question.
@dave @KonataWagner
Ok, slaves killed their owners.
How many other people can die, before you say it was an unjustified death?
@KonataWagner @dave
That is such a huge problem with the way most idiots see politics.
Not even literal Nazis were "Nazis"
Not even literal KKK members were "KKK membembers"
Most literal Antifas aren't "Antifags"
So whenever you talk about historical situations, the conditions of either one or both groups are completelly ignored by saying "They were X, of course they were evil"
@Jens_Rasmussen @KonataWagner @LukeAlmighty Counterpoint: The perpetrators were also French
@dave
> You keep repeating NEETzsche’s argument, that I must be anti-white,
Where the fuck have I said that you were anti-white yesterday?
>You believe that under a natural order, black people should be enslaved by white people, and any resort to violence by black people to free themselves from enslavement by white people is inherently unjust.
I have literally never met someone who thinks this.
@dave @book
I had muted him for a week.
There is no reason to talk to anyone who had twisted his world view to such an extend, that he can just throw around such a ridiculous accusation.
Was it an incorrect response? maybe. But damn, how should a man who values freedom so strictly as I do, when he's accused of loving slavery?
>The response merited to defend a kid from assault or rape is nothing like the response merited to “defend” a kid from going to some event that you think isn’t age appropriate.
Taking your kid to a drag show is assault or rape. It warrants extreme violence.
> Would you be justified to bust into a parent’s house and beat the shit out of them if they let their 10-year-old watch an R-rated movie?
If you let your 10 year old watch Ru Paul you 100% deserve to be lynched yes.
@dave
Statement: There are kids being groomed into taking life-altering drugs in schools and kindergartens right now.
Statement: These actions must be stopped at all cost.
Statement: The lefties are doing their best to defend the groomers.
My question is WHY??? If you want friendly communities, good, but that shit has to wait until statement 1 becomes false.
@dave
So please, tell me why does the left keep on pushing? Why cannot they let parents make sure their kids are safe?
but if you cannot see why protecting kids is a worthy cause
And this is another “I see why you take after NEETzsche” moment, because he loves to do this kind of false equivalence too.
The response merited to defend a kid from assault or rape is nothing like the response merited to “defend” a kid from going to some event that you think isn’t age appropriate. Would you be justified to bust into a parent’s house and beat the shit out of them if they let their 10-year-old watch an R-rated movie? Obviously not. It would be if you caught them molesting their kids though? Sure. In both cases you’re “protecting kids”, but in the former case your response was wildly disproportionate.