@LukeAlmighty @LouisConde @LukeAlmighty

> People vastly overestimate the cost of children
The main cost is childcare, because either you earn enough as a single-income household to pay bills, have housing and be financially stable while your wife stays home with the kids or you earn enough for daycare, which is a substantial additional cost per child. With a SAHM, the marginal cost per additional child is negligible compared to the additional cost of daycare and private schools (have you seen the public system?).
@LukeAlmighty @LukeAlmighty @LouisConde

> Grandparents doing childcare
I mean yeah, if you live close enough, if they're in good enough health to care for multiple kids under five, and if they're happy to essentially work 50 hours a week as an unpaid daycare without having a job themselves... Not true for most people.
@TinyFern @LukeAlmighty @LouisConde
that this isn't the case anymore is exactly what destroyed society. you had just a big family on a farm or in a village who could care for your kids. now your are two people who have to do everything if you don't want your kids to be brainwashed from year one.

side remark: there are _so_ many people here in germany who put their kids at age 1 into some daycare it's frightening. those kids can only turn out with mental illness.
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