@NEETzsche
I don't get it. Why do all the open source fanboys LOVE to live in a perpetual state of denial? No matter how many times you explain the difficulty of using their stuff, instead of trying to figure out how to decrease it, they will spend their time just arguing that it's better that way.

(triggered by your comments on xmpp and my perpetual fight to learn the BASICS of how to use Linux.)

@LukeAlmighty They're ideologues. They're like communists, Nazis, or libertarians. Richard Stallman has programmed a software ideology into them that they don't recognize as an ideology. They regard it as fact. You can't debate it because it's just reality, at least to them.

So they bring up how their preferred thing is FOSS and yours isn't and they sincerely think that the debate basically ends there. It doesn't have to actually work as long as their shit is FOSS and your shit isn't.

This, coming from someone who likes Linux and a lot of FOSS shit. In a lot of ways I prefer Linux to Windows but there are just so many compatibility issues that it's often not worth it. But that just won't register as an actual issue, either.

@NEETzsche
I just cannot get over that unbelievably complicated file system...

But I'm working on it.

@LukeAlmighty The thing with loonix in general is that, from a mathematical perspective, a great deal of it is legitimately simpler than windoze, look from a human cognitive perspective the exact opposite is true.

A great example of this is the file system as you say. Except it's not really the file system itself, it's actually the way they organize the files in the system. That's what I imagine is the issue for you. I bet you're thinking things like: "where is the configuration file for this program I installed? What are the settings I can change in it that aren't listed in there by default? How do I get it to reload this file without rebooting the entire fucking box?" And so on.

Am I right?

@NEETzsche
> where is the configuration file

Yeah... that would be also good. But my favorite question is more like l: What disk is this file even on?

@LukeAlmighty df -h

“I bet you feel stupid now for not just knowing that off the top of your head huh? ”

No but seriously I sincerely expect Linux spergs to really want you to “just know” these commands even though that isn’t how this works at all

@NEETzsche @LukeAlmighty i mean that's why there's --help options for every command

@lina @LukeAlmighty that's only helpful if you know which command to run in the first place