@LukeAlmighty Yeah, whatever you think about him, Zero wrote a decent long rambling piece that’s also a review of that terrible mobie.

https://wiki.chadnet.org/zendaya-and-the-art-of-multiverse-maintenance

Spider-Man: Across etc. hits all the beats of the queer monomyth, and in fact the dramatic sequence of bigoted rejection, temper tantrum, acceptance plays out several times across several characters. In the climax of the story, Miles Morales defeats his nemesis effortlessly. The only point of friction in the colossally boring fight scene is the cliché where he realizes that he was good enough all along, and he doesn’t have to grow or change in any way. I think that’s a self evidently vile message to teach to anyone, child or adult, but it’s all too typical of queer narcissism. In this movie, being Spider-Man (having super powers) is an allegory for being gay or trans. The children in the movie struggle with the emotional labor of “coming out” to their parents as Spider-Man. This doesn’t make any sense, because unlike being queer, being Spider-Man is not a source of moral opprobrium, but it only serves to highlight the allegorical nature of the conundrum.

@grey
Wait... The bad guy's motivation is literally: Fuck you man!!!

That's so incredibly lame.

@LukeAlmighty Depends which bad guy, the "evil" spider-man's primary sin is.... telling the protagonist "No".
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@grey I meant the dalmatine guy

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@LukeAlmighty everything about the movie is lame, i do regret that i wasted my scene points on seeing it for free

@grey
I don't, because I don't believe it's broken on principle...

But noone had done it right yet.

@LukeAlmighty I do, because it's metaphysical nonsense, and if you internalize the ideas of whatever garbage multiverse rules you settle on, you become less able to reason. There's no "multiverse" scenario that makes any kind of actual sense in how it would exist in reality, all of them gloss over huge physical and metaphysical problems to have their stupid fun. Jay has done a bunch of different streams and videos that touch on the metaphysical underlying principals of these media creations.

youtu.be/Sp2SLgZ6vQ4?t=1513

@grey
I'll watch that after the movie.
Yes, I know, that argumenting against multiversal storytelling is easy, but I just am hopeful :D

@grey @LukeAlmighty Honestly, what annoys me the most is that they don't even get the concept of the multiverse right, they just use it as an excuse to make all of their fanfiction OC's "real." Their idea of a multiverse is that every human decision creates an entire new universe, it's just steeped in layers of gag-inducing egotism.
@MeBigbrain @LukeAlmighty multiverse fiction is like time travel fiction, it's metaphysical nonsense, there is no "true" version of it to compare your fiction against, so the best they do is come up with some bullshit rules for themselves (and then proceed to violate them when they become inconvenient).

@grey @MeBigbrain
> and then proceed to violate them when they become inconvenient

That part isn't mandatory though... That's the entire point I'm trying to say. I don't mind theoreticals, as long as you keep playing them by the rules.

@grey @LukeAlmighty Such fiction, like all "hard" science fiction, should only be written by obsessive autists who will always abide by their set rules no matter how inconvenient they become.
@MeBigbrain @LukeAlmighty science fiction has always been a genre that's existed a tool of the globalists to imagine a world without Christ. SF and Fantasy almost without exception, are exercises in building worlds without God.

also, remember that even with the legends like arthur c. clarke, he spent the second half of his life on sri lanka, where he could easily access trafficked children for sex.
@grey @LukeAlmighty >always
Idk, I think the classics like H.G. Wells and Jules Verne weren't meant to be atheistic, just neat adventures. We could go back to that.
@MeBigbrain @LukeAlmighty @grey This reminds me, I need to finish reading The Space Trilogy.
@MeBigbrain @LukeAlmighty @grey the entirety of Wells work is considered -at minimum- informed towards socialism. This isn't smarmy publishers saying that after the fact either, but pretty sober and amenable writers making SF the way they wish it would be.

There is a reason why it's said R.A. Lafferty asked his editor at some reunion/award thing why he agreed to publish Past Master despite it being a balls to the wall yarn filled with Christian-Catholic imagery. Editor said he just saw a well written SF novel at the time.
1968. Dune was 1965. Something tells me stuff like that wouldn't have made it during the 40s SF highs or their macabre degeneration towards the 80s.
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@grey @MeBigbrain
If your enjoyment of movies is based around the ammount of worship present, then I see why hard magic system fiction wouldn't be for you :D

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