@Saber @tomcapuder
> Atheist argument:
> God is mean
You obviously lack the intellect to gasp the "doesn't exist" as a concept... But that's what I came to expect from christians at this point.
@Heil_Honkler @Saber @tomcapuder
I don't know, I am just a stupid monkey.
I think they call this argument "god of gaps", but the anwser is simple. I don't know.
CatSoc 
Sounds pagan.
Greek philosophy is a common point between Christian thought and Pagan thought, in some ways, since it was definitely Pagan in character and origin but was used by the Christians for the foundations of their theology/philosophy. Pretty much every educated Neopagan, Christian, Vedic, et cetera today, loves this stuff.
@CatLord @Jens_Rasmussen @Saber @Heil_Honkler @tomcapuder
I seriously have no issues with people having this kind of complex view of God , but it's hard to take it as an argument, when I saw christians point at a tree saying, that it's a proof of God's existence.
Things like personal experience and direct experience with the divine aren’t really “an argument” for third parties, but they absolutely are an argument for the person experiencing them. You’re ultimately going to have to venture forth on your own in these matters. Nobody is going to give you all the answers and all the proof, not like how you’re thinking anyway.
@NEETzsche @Jens_Rasmussen @Saber @CatLord @Heil_Honkler @tomcapuder
> Nobody is going to give you all the answers and all the proof, not like how you’re thinking anyway.
I know, and that is a part, that I never had an issue with.
I get, that there is no physical proof of god in the physical world. It's a ridiculous concept. Even if there was a measurable way to cause miracles, physicists would find a way to predict it, making it a part of science.
I am here because of the infinite smugness of the christians, who wonder why pointing at a tree is not an argument... Or that saying that without god, they would go around killing people is not a good argument either...
This idea that you need to prove God comes from the Enlightenment, where the idea that if you can’t prove something is true, it is false. It’s also where this idea that “science” and religion are in some way in conflict. Trying to prove or disprove God is faggot shit. What are you going to do, test God with some ritualism like He is subordinated to some stupid rigmarole anybody can go through to invoke His name? You enter the Konami code and manna falls into your bowl?
You either believe it or you don’t, and really, the specifics of what you believe get a lot murkier once you accept the existence of God than before it, not less. I agree, Christoids who try to reduce the ineffable into something “simple” are retarded. I guess I don’t have to deal with that much, though, because I, being a Christian, only deal with comparable smugness from Reddit atheists who treat soyence like their cathedral and “peer reviewed journals” like their scripture.
@Internet_Ronin @Jens_Rasmussen @NEETzsche @Saber @CatLord @Heil_Honkler @tomcapuder
Please, don't listen to "popular science"... These guys are a plague
@NEETzsche @Jens_Rasmussen @Saber @CatLord @Heil_Honkler @tomcapuder
When I think about it, it reminds me of one problem with gaming.
> Given enough time, gamers will optimalize the fun out of the game
Yes, there is a mathematically optimal way to play most games... But finding, describing it and following it perfectly is hardly the correct way to live your life.