@Svantovit @Kerosene @LukeAlmighty If you're getting a B.S. or M.S., it's good to get a degree in Math. Otherwise, don't - there's a canon of texts which are sufficient to give you a good enough understanding of Math at the M.S. level and the university experience is unnecessary except to teach you how to write a proper proof.
@Svantovit @Kerosene @LukeAlmighty >If you're getting a B.S. or M.S.
That is, if you've already decided you want those things. If not, then don't.
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That killed all of my chance at Uni, since 1/2 of all subjects were math related, and it was assumed, that I understood the math proof language.

Well, I didn't. You cannot learn that shit in 5 months, especially while sleep deprived and with hands full of other problems, and after 1 semester, I failed about 1/2 of my classes.

So, I had no chance of recovering from that. I got in without exams based on my math skill btw :pepelol:

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@LukeAlmighty @Kerosene @Svantovit Shouldn't they have started you out with Calculus and Differential Equations? Those aren't proof-based classes, the first proof-based classes should come in 2nd year if you're majoring in Math.

@ceo_of_monoeye_dating @Kerosene @Svantovit
It was one of the best schools in the state.

And differential equasions were mostly covered in high school. But the problem simply was, that the jump between high school math perfection, and what was assumed to be uni baseline was insane.

@LukeAlmighty @Kerosene @Svantovit >It was one of the best schools in the state.

It was advertised as churning out the best product because it is a burnout school. MIT is the same way - that doesn't make it a good school.

A normal state university starts you out a little slower.

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To be fair, I moved to another uni later, and I can totally say, that I learned in 1 year there more, then in the 5 following years in the 2nd one.

@ceo_of_monoeye_dating @Kerosene @Svantovit @LukeAlmighty I never really though about that. I knew someone who went to Caltech, and he mentioned undergrads start out working from an infamous text book on E&M that's normally for grad students (Jackson). I struggled with the book as a grad student, and I couldn't imagine anyone trying to go through it as a first year undegrad, but if that's the point, then I get it.
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