what’s funny is introducing yourself in a circle where ppl request pronouns, but I have never complied with any of those requests when I introduce myself because I am obviously a woman. When even the trans woman doesn’t need to clarify her pronouns, it really makes you think about how actually has a material basis for oppression.
So it’s just hilarious to me that every single time, the males identifying as “they/them” have to explicitly state so because they are obviously men. Inb4 ppl cry about it because these are grown men who aren’t transitioning or nothing lmaooo.
I don’t get it tbh, but I got the feeling that reading post modernist queer theory led to brain rot among leftist men
@teratology
A great lie is still a lie though.
If you make a cake in shape of a shoe, it might look like a shoe, but you will regret stepping into it immediately.
Therefore, identifying troon just on the bases of them passing is just brain dead. It's not a bad thing to admit, that our perception is not perfect. But to bend our language around our incorrect observations is evil.
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/GTmeUkCtNsA
I don't consider trans ness by passing, I don't deny biology either, but I also think being transsexual/transgender actually means something. Ppl started making excuses to validate the idea of identifying as trans without actually living as a trans person.
Let's be real, without surgeries or modifications most of them would not pass, it isn't even a realistic goal, but the reason trans are clocked in because they are obviously gender nonconforming to an extent, they act too feminine or masculine and it makes people uncomfortable based on the sex. My point being that most people hate crimed are visibly different than the norm.
Some white dude saying he goes by they them, who obviously presents as a man, who is born male, does not indicate that the person is trans. Most actual trans people don't even claim them either, because they know this shit is contradictory as fuck.
Nevertheless you are certain to find plenty of heterosexuals calling themselves queer now based on some nonsense like this.
@teratology
Well, there used to be a word "weird" for people who didn't fit. Maybe trying to push every single behavioral characteristics into a person's pants was what broke the consensus to begin with. 
Also, I am a guy. People are uncomfortable around me by default, because I DO fit my gender. So, that argument means nothing to me either.
@LukeAlmighty
Maybe trying to push every single behavioral characteristics into a person’s pants was what broke the consensus to begin with.
Basically this, I grew up a tomboy and always been this way but I suspect I would have been pushed into transitioning if I was born a few years later. As much as ppl don’t discuss it there is a huge element of heteronormativity in transitioning I feel like ppl don’t acknowledge.
The trans men I grew up with were severely bullied and mistreated growing up. I was one of the few kids who would bunk with one in 5th grade, and my other friend was an obvious Butch lesbian her entire childhood but I suppose it got harder in HS with homophobia. Also ppl would assume at the time my friend was trans or wanted to be a man because she was a Butch lesbian. My friend chose to transition during sophmore year and i can’t speak for that decision but I do remember our other friends parents kinda pushing that narrative.
Historically speaking he/him lesbians existed to survive in secret and blend in, some ppl might try to argue that they were trans but it was survival from a historical context. Alan Turing killed himself bc of forced chemical castration and some ppl argue he was trans when he never said he was. marsha P Johnson is another popular example, the one ppl completely made up started the stonewall riots.
When Malcom was a gay man, identified as such, was a drag queen, and admitted himself he wasn’t at that riot. There’s a lot of historical revisionism going on when it comes to LGBT history but bisexuals and transsexuals were not well regarded and were seen as a hindrance to the gay rights movement. Sylvia Rivera has some famous speeches were she was booed on stage.