I wonder... if I were to go to one of those protests/riots with a sign that just said "I'm tired of violence" how would I be perceived?
The message can easily be interpreted both as one against the rioting and violence that these protests spark, and we know that if you bad mouth the violence you'll suddenly be seen as anti-protests and pro-cops, and we know how that ends up. But the message can also be interpreted as being against the initial violence that supposedly sparked the current manifestations (ie death of Floyd).
So the question is, how would a rioting mob interpret it?

@alyx have you ever seen revolution without blood? people seem to forget quickly police dont have brain they take orders from government. This is war of government against their own people. This is what governments do. You stop it only by removing government. preferably not forming it ever again.

@akeno
Go try Anarchy for a couple of years and get back to me how it worked out. That is if you survive a couple of years.
@alyx

@Jack @alyx how is government working out for you LOL anarchy worked before...Anarchist Spain etc.

@akeno
Government is working out brilliant for me. They keep me in a job and the tax payer dollar pays for all my expensive habits.
@alyx

@Jack @alyx So you are Fascist. Thats who this war is against. Good luck It's billions of us against few of you.

@akeno @Jack
You have a really low bar for what counts as fascism friend. Please reconsider your life.

@alyx @Jack Yes I guess thats why thousands protest in your country soon millions. because government works LOL

@akeno @Jack
Let me know how Anarchist Spain is doing right now. Oh... that's right. There is no Anarchist Spain currently.

It seems governments still have a better track record of working.
Even feudalism probably has a better track record.

@alyx @akeno @Jack Literally everything has a better track record than Anarchism. Even Juche communism lmao.

@adrint @alyx @Jack You all call "good track record" fact that people must do revolutions and die to have rights? WOW

@akeno @adrint @Jack
Bro, in Anarchy there is nothing and no one that can ensure your human rights are respected. The government is not the one that decides what your human rights are, but it is the only thing that can enforce and protect your rights once it recognizes them.

@alyx @akeno @adrint @Jack why can't you protect your rights yourself. government isn't doing much about stores being robbed.
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@colonelj @Jack @akeno @adrint
There's only so much you will ever be able to do to protect your rights yourself. There will always still be moments when you need things like an impartial justice system to handle disputes. To some degree you can protect your property, but who will you trust to rightfully divide that property if you ever get a divorce for example.

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@alyx @colonelj @Jack @adrint Nonsense. would you read on anarchy already please? But to simplify Anarchy = LAW and freedom without force.
State = law and freedom with force
Force= no law, no freedom. Put things together. you must be rich if you like gov so much. So here we go again: "Until it happens to you" ....I hope soon.

LOL there is no such thing as anarcho-anything. Only anarchy.Otherwise you could come up even with anarcho-fascism

@akeno @colonelj @Jack @adrint
You cannot have law without a state power to enforce it. Without force you can't even ensure people respect any law. Seriously, why would I, or anyone else, do what you say in your vision of anarchy if there is no threat of force?

@alyx
Anarchists live in fantasy land. They believe that everyone will hold hands and sing songs together choosing to ignore the fact that not everyone wants to live the way they do.

Anarchy as its core is might makes right. So I hope all the soyboys enjoy being slaves while they watch their female friends and family members getting raped.
@akeno @colonelj @adrint

@Jack @colonelj @akeno @adrint
Thing is, there will always be an individual, or group of individuals, that gather more might, and by using it, they will force everyone else to do as they say, thus becoming the new leaders and erasing anarchy.

@Jack @colonelj @akeno @adrint
Good way to put it. I usually call it an idealistic political ideology. It's very beautiful and interesting when you put it down on paper, taking in consideration only perfect parameters. But humans are highly imperfect and flawed, and we just don't fit in with that perfectly laid down plan for anarchy. Or communism. Or fascism. Or nazism. Or any number of other idealistic political systems.

@Jack @alyx @adrint @akeno a government can rule because it has a monopoly on the use of force (might makes right) so there's really little difference. your just comfortable ceding power to some ambiguous ever-changing entity cause you've lived within it all your life. have a free book.

http://cdn.media.freedomainradio.com/feed/books/EA/Everyday_Anarchy_by_Stefan_Molyneux_PDF.pdf
@colonelj
I can't read. I grew up in an Anarchist commune and there was no schools or teachers because everyone was busy working their arses off to provide the basic infrastructure we needed to survive.
@adrint @akeno @alyx
@colonelj @Jack @akeno @alyx The government has a monopoly on the use of force because neoliberals are obsessed with disarming the working class as much as possible.
@colonelj
You only want Anarchy so you cam fug all the children you want.
@adrint @akeno @alyx
@Jack @adrint @akeno @alyx governments currently allow child rape among the elites and only go for the small fish.
@colonelj
The difference is that you ain't part of the elite and would face the full force of the law under the current system. Hence why you push for Anarchy.
@adrint @akeno @alyx
@Jack @adrint @akeno @alyx under anarchy people are free to take direct action against those people.
@Jack @adrint @akeno @alyx is you're inner-anglo coming through? if you wont take direct action against your daughter's rapist what else would you do
@colonelj
You missed the point. What I was saying that regardless of what I do to the person who raped my daughter, my daughter would've still been raped and nothing can undo that fact.
@adrint @akeno @alyx
@colonelj
That any system of governance that keeps the bulk of pedos in check is better than one that allows them to rape until they die.
@adrint @akeno @alyx
@Jack @adrint @akeno @alyx I'm not so sure it's an actual bulk in terms of numbers of children harmed because the elites exploit actual children (and actively protected) while the "bulk" get scraps. i can't condone it or say it's better. in an alternative system you, all people, can take direct action against them all equally.

@colonelj @alyx @Jack @adrint Dont;t bother with them. I think we saw enough. They know best what rapist should deserve. Spot in White house. Everyone should bow to them. only their free will is the right one. These fascists simply want to put rapist to prison to confirm how good people they are. Same concept as slumming. The rapist gets probably killed in prison anyway, But they already detached themselves, nothing is their fault. "Until it happens to them " Cause their system jails innocent

@akeno
I'm not black so the chances of me going to prison are pretty slim.
@colonelj @alyx @adrint
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