@alyx they can be curb stomped in 5 seconds if it was politically popular

@alyx The Union is being condemned by history now too. Tear the country in half to end slavery, suffer hundreds of thousands of dead…it doesn't matter. You'll still just be a forever-racist.

@alyx they're only "peaceful" because they align with the establishment and media bias

@alyx The civil war nowadays is moralized about more, in practice, due to anti-racism narratives as opposed to some concept of treason, which is ironic considering stopping treason & secession in principle was the main concern of the north, not ending slavery. (Though confederate apologists are wrong to downplay the role that slavery played in causing the CSA to want to secede)

When present-day liberals appeal to treason to get patriots to support the banning of the confederate flag or the tearing down of statues, it is really just a disingenuous tactic to get conservative support. Like these people who think themselves all worldly and diverse care about the nationalist concept of loyalty to a country in principle (they don't). It is like when irreligious liberals try to appeal to a Christian's (typically skewed and out of context) morality to get them to support some liberal position. They do not in any way respect Christianity - it is just a tactic.