"I turned off my webcam so I'm saving the planet!"

She says, holding her coffee mug with both hands, the furnace cranked up to 80, Disney+ on and muted in the background (so she has something to look at during the video call), a dozen cookies in the oven, having forgotten to turn off all the lights, right after her 45 minute long hot shower.

Oh, and that computer runs 4 electron apps 24/7, even the 18 hours a day she's not using that computer.

But she's really proud about those webcam savings.

@r000t
Sometimes I can't believe people could really be that stupid...

@icedquinn @r000t
Sure, that's gonna be the big issue. Not the dozen ram guzzling Chrome tabs, not the complete mess of unoptimized crap apps pass for these days, not Windows' bloat, nah, it's gonna be the video encoding of a low bitrate 720p video, that can be done through the GPU, that is the big problem.

@alyx @r000t they used to try and put dedicated encoding hardware in those although whether you can make use of them varies greatly.

do you happen to know if webshit actually even uses nvenc

and transmitting+mixing (if its a mixing server, which they try to move away from now because of the compute)+decoding isn't trivial either.
@alyx @r000t IIRC the current state of the art for hobo conferencing is peer to peer WebRTC where the clients are blind firing video packets at one another.

some of the older conference suites i ran in to (or optionally some new ones i guess?) used to receive all the video, merge it and send it back, but it was compute and bandwidth AF.
@alyx @r000t (all i'm saying is video actually is kinda expensive :comfyshrug:)
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@icedquinn @r000t
1) It doesn't have to be. Only reason it does is: unoptimized crap apps.
2) What's the bigger issue: a piece of software you use for a few hours every once in a while, or the crap that runs all day long?

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@alyx @icedquinn
>which software is the bigger issue

A laptop for a Zoom call consumes somewhere between 15-60 watts. Disabling the video capability of the call reduces, but doesn't eliminate this use.

At some one point, if you're turning off this and that basic feature to save electricity, why own a computer?

Also, Mrs. Natural Fibers more than outstripped her savings when she lengthened the conference call for 10 minute to blog about her dog and the church group and how she's saving the earth by not having video.
@r000t @alyx i knew people that had to sit through entire day long calls (this was pre-covid) because the person who ran the team used it to herd the cats.
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