to satisfy PETA we now have GMO cows who experience orgasm when milked so its no longer animal abuse.
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@icedquinn
So now you're raping the cows... lovely...
@icedquinn
If they get orgasms, then milking them is equivalent to jacking them off... which means: you're raping them.
@cassidyclown @icedquinn
Not really, since neither of the party have or expect any kind of sexual pleasure out of it. Not even a really twisted and perverse kind.
Besides, if artificial insemination was anywhere close to rape, do you think you'd see human women get in vitro procedures done?
Rape is defined by consent lmao not be the pleasure experienced by either party. Artificial insemination in cows is often quite painful for the cow. Human women choose to get it done because it's yaknow a choice.
But you tell us, o my consent is important...
Cows are consenting to everything when they are in heat.
@alyx @icedquinn
@frank87 @icedquinn @cassidyclown
By our definition of consent, animals wouldn't really qualify for it.
For our version of consent to work, being conscious, self-aware, higher cognitive abilities are basically needed. Maybe we could fit some apes and dolphins into our understanding of consent, but cows... no. don't think so.
@frank87 @icedquinn @cassidyclown @Christ
I can't really tell what's the deal with Baby Jesus over there... so for now, I mostly ignore him.
@frank87 @alyx @cassidyclown @icedquinn
If they go to court, claiming rape they would have a case. But by going to court they would show some level of human consciousness...
I wouldn't hold my breath 😉
@alyx @cassidyclown @icedquinn
Hmm... so that means I can force many people to have sex with and not be a rapist.
@frank87 @alyx @cassidyclown @icedquinn
You're jumping to conclusions. You need a certain level of consciousness to go to court. That doesn't mean, you don't have that kind of consciousness if you don't.
But maybe, some idiot can claim to be a representative of an animal to get a real juridical answer.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180525/23110739918/monkey-selfie-lawsuit-will-never-ever-die-appeals-court-judge-wants-do-over.shtml
@alyx @cassidyclown @icedquinn
I agree, the most important point is it's impossible to fit animals into laws governing interpersonal human relationships. Based on our concept of consciousness.
If cows would write laws, rape wouldn't be included. Or sexual assault (or any other kind of assault). They communicate with their horns on their heads.
@icedquinn @cassidyclown
I don't know about snakes, but I really don't think the sex codes of most insects or spiders would be a good idea.
@alyx @cassidyclown
spoods have a lot of dance/courtship and if the woman doesn't like it the man gets stabbed. neofeminists would be pretty happy.
snakes though, very rapey.
@icedquinn @frank87 @cassidyclown
Aren't dolphins kinda rapey too, or maybe I'm misremembering.
There are a lot of insect species, and most of them don't expect to survive very long after reproduction. Humankind wouldn't survive their sexual habits for very long.
@alyx @cassidyclown
So... no humans would be able to have sex?
@alyx @frank87 @icedquinn @cassidyclown