@shpuld
This is why "green" advocacy is retarded. This is what "green" advocacy brings you, along with shitty straws that are no longer recyclable and now get to rot in your landfill.

@alyx just dont use straws at all lmao

@shpuld
Life without straws isn't worth living.

@alyx @shpuld well, paper straws are bio-degradable, aren't they? I bet you can sort them into biowaste for them to become compost or cardboard/paper for recycling if they aren't too soggy.

Staws themselves aren't terribly useful tho, their main use is complicated coctails and sodas (since you avoid washing your teeth in goga-gola :DDDD)

but real solution was with us all along - drink more water

@hj @alyx maybe it was the fancy new metal straws

@shpuld @alyx i actually have those, they are very nice.

Probably even easier to recycle since all you have to do is smelt them.

I'm more concerned with cleaning equipment - they came with this tiny brush to clean the inside, but i don't think you could get one like that without buying more straws.

@hj @shpuld
I've seen them, never tried buying any. I'm guessing they're steel? Would be easy enough to recycle, because you can easily separate them from other metals via magnets.

But as a daily use, cleaning them would be hard, and I wouldn't trust to drink with one in any kind of restaurant. Maybe specialized automatic straw cleaning equipment will appear at some point, but for now I don't trust reusable straws being hygienic.

@alyx @shpuld yeah, a pack of 4 straws at clas ohlson comes with a tiny brush to clean those from inside, the only problem is that those are angled, makes it a tiny bit harder to clean the bend. I imagine that for restaurants they could use fatter and staraight pipes instead, with automation just pulling similar brush to and fro or just running hot water through them idk. it's solvable imo.

but yeah i think those are stainless steel, there are even brass/gold-colored ones but i think those are also stainless steel with extra coating.

for home use those are probably the best option.

@hj @shpuld
Just running hot water is probably not enough to meet safety standards. Even if it's close to boiling water, it would have to have some significant pressure behind it (if you want fast cleaning).
If you're ok with the process taking a long time, you could probably adapt the same tech normal washing machines use, and make something smaller just for straws.