the virgin "abortion is okay because a fetus technically isn't a person yet so it can't be murder"
vs
the chad "abortion is okay because a fetus is an uninvited intruder into my body and home making it justifiable homicide"

@galena
The chad version is the one I personally HATE. The shit in my colon is an uninvited intruder into my body. Should we start advocating for shit abortions?

Personally I'm not a big fan of the chad version either, and I believe that in an ideal utopic society, there would be no abortion at all. But we don't live in an ideal society, and the "virgin" abortion argument is the only one so far I accept.

@alyx I don't like abortion much either. I agree that in an ideal world, we wouldn't need abortions to begin with - unfortunately, we don't live in an ideal world. Abortion debates are always messy and difficult. Since it doesn't really impact me much either way, and basically every party in my country is either neutral or in support of abortion, I don't have especially strong feelings on it nor do I particularly care about debating about it.

@galena @alyx
> shit abortions
how can we abuse the law to get planned parenthood to pay doctors to remove shit from my ass

@icedquinn @galena
Abortion is murder or something... i don't know. I can't even right now.

@alyx @galena i don't really like it but the state can fuck off harder than i'm going to stop people killing their babies.

@alyx @galena this weird shit where they use the fetuses for organ harvesting on the black market can especially fuck right off

@icedquinn @alyx @galena uw... what?!
How are you supposed to get organs from a fetus?