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For some people I trust that they are and always will be untrustworthy.
@alyx u trust their untrustworthyness?
@Xalef
Basically. I trust that I can't trust them.
@alyx fair, but how does the gap is breached?
@Xalef
I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.
@alyx is there a point when the nontrustable becomes trusted?
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@Xalef
I see... when you reached that point where I trust you can't be trusted, not really.
For someone to gain that status, it means they regularly partake in malevolent and untrustworthy behavior. It's like a habit for them. And breaking such habits is gonna be hard enough that for me there's no point in believing they'll ever be able to do it.
