@ArdainianRight @alyx I half agree with this but I reject the notion that this is vanity because that would be a feminine trait and troons have basically no feminine spirit or traits, only hyperperverted masculine spirit and traits. The tranny who demands to be told that he looks great or to get other validation does so for two reasons: first, it fuels the fetish. It makes him aroused and he masturbates to it. It’s unpleasant to think about but everytime a tranny gets called pretty this is happening on the other side of that screen. It’s pure, albeit warped, male Eros, a male coomer degenerated to its lowest form. Secondly, it’s a power trip, from the masculine desire to dominate. When a tranny gets others to tell him he looks cute or even to call him “her” or by a woman’s name that he made up, it’s a power trip, because forcing other people to lie under threat of the social (or sometimes literal) violence that comes from denying trannies is a power trip, it’s the kind of power trip that petty tyrants love the most, it’s the same kind of guy that gets drunk and beats his wife to a pulp to feel important. Funny enough, troons are the only actual example of toxic masculinity that is still a wide scale systemic problem in our society.

@SerfnUSA @ArdainianRight @alyx I spoke to a tran online at length once
I discovered that he had a specific taste in women and, predictably, wanted to model his body to look like that. Lot of talk about playing with his own "giant boobs" after surgery.
When I combine those discussions with what I see online about "lol I'm so DUMB now that've been on hormones teehee", it becomes incredibly obvious this is a fetish. Some extreme "I'm my own gf" roleplay fetish and therefore
Hot take: being trans is a sex act and forcing others to participate against their will is indistinguishable from rape

@hikari @ArdainianRight @SerfnUSA
You're describing autogynephilia. I personally don't believe this fits all trans-people, but from my understanding there are even studies that show this is a thing.

@alyx @ArdainianRight @SerfnUSA >not all
It covers enough and society doesn't have access to their mental health assessments at all times to make case-by-case judgements

Better to have sweeping, decisive action against it