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They can still have a better performance/$ than nVidia, but that doesn't mean they'll compete at the high end too. I don't want them to abandon the high end market either, but let's face it, when was the last time AMD really managed to be on par with nVidia? On the GPU side, we might have to end up putting our hopes with Intel.

I also kinda wonder if we're at a limit with graphics these days. I haven't gamed in a few months, focusing more on coding. But even when I jump on my Windows box, there's nothing that really screams "Man, I wish I could run this at higher settings cause it's taxing my 3080-Ti" ... like nothing. Some things might run at high or medium instead of ultra, but like who cares?

I'd rather play older games on my hacked PS4. And when you look at the console market, AMD dominates with their chips (exBox, PS4, PS5 .. all AMD GPUs .. I think they're all AMD CPUs too?)

I'll admit the PS5 does look really nice, but it's not the same generation jump. I don't think the 50x series will be either. I think a lot of people who are queuing up to buy it either have really old 10xx or 20xx cards they're finally upgrading, or they're just CONSUME whores.

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It's been diminishing returns for quite a while, and after a certain level of 3d (much like with 2d) the style matters more than the actual graphical capability

That won't change until real active full ray tracing is a thing, or whatever it's called now

@djsumdog @j
>I also kinda wonder if we're at a limit with graphics these days
A bit, kinda. Things wouldn't be so bad if AAA game developers actually did their jobs and optimized their games. Then they'd have some headroom to do something more on the graphics front.
Instead we get pretty much the same graphic quality as 5 years ago (if not longer) with worse and worse performance. And then you slap some shitty TAA and DLSS on top, and pretend your game runs well. When in reality it looks blurrier than games used to, and it runs like shit.

Yes, the big consoles (aka not Nintendo) all use an AMD APU (meaning AMD CPU with integrated graphics). But they're custom made APUs, and I'm pretty sure on the graphics front they're more powerful than any AMD APU you can purchase on the market.