i love r/linuxsucks it's full of clueless casual users
like imagine tomato except there are like 15 more clones of him and they all post to this one subreddit
i found tomato clone number one already in a screenshot on the sub
ah, here's what I'm used to from this sub

@nyanide I keep saying it, the Linux community is bad. And he's right, most of the good software you associate with Linux is available on Windows too. So there's little incentive in switching to Linux in the first place.

Until user friendliness becomes a priority, Linux is not a good choice for a desktop OS for the average user.
It's a good choice for some programmers, people who like to tinker, and maybe some other niche users. But not for... pretty much everyone else on Earth.

@alyx Aside from my gripes with like Windows not having good package managers and whatnot NT and the environment surrounding it is terribly designed.

@nyanide Honestly... I can live without package managers. It's definitely an useful feature Linux has, but at times, especially when I was in the Ubuntu ecosystem, I just wanted the ability to download a .exe equivalent setup file from a webpage, and know it will "just work".
Ubuntu had .deb at the time, but those could be hit or miss if the dev didn't package for the latest Ubuntu version. These days, AppImage is a good equivalent, but not everyone uses them. And I have trust issues with Snap and Flatpaks that devs seem to prefer.

These days, arch repositories & AUR really do seem to have everything, so haven't felt that "just give me a damn .exe!" need in many years.
But software packaging is still a mess in Linux overall. Too many package managers, too many standards. Windows keeping it somewhat simple is a big benefit for the average users I talk about.

@alyx I'm a god damn schizoid nowadays and like having all my software up to my date on my system, it used to be impossible to keep my old windows systems up to date because I had installed tons of software. It's also a skill issue in some ways but if I end up in this situation again, I better be able to update everything.

>But software packaging is still a mess in Linux overall. Too many package managers, too many standards.

Actually true, christ almighty some aspects of Linux are legitimately cucked because of weird distro maintainers.
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@nyanide The schizoid thing got me moving away from Ubuntu too, so I get it. For me it wasn't necesarily an issue of getting all software up to date, but I'd hear "Gimp has this new feature!", and then I'd discover Ubuntu wouldn't put it in for several months. And I've had issues with PPAs too... so I wanted out. Solution for me was Manjaro and currently Endeavour. Together with KDE, I'm actually happy right now.

I have days when I think about going Windows again, but not strong enough to actually do it. But I also don't want to change my distro unless someone pays me a lot.

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